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Hey friends. I’m so excited. You guys are here for another podcast episode. I’m with Kelsey Conway. She is over www.instagram.com/kosmiccreators on Instagram where she shares and goes deep with human design and astrology and gene keys. She empowers you to live a more conscious and fulfilled life through embodying your unique cosmic design.

And she currently offers one on one readings and coaching. Kelsey, I’m so excited you’re here because this is something that I’m so interested and invested in learning. And, uh, it’s really great to have someone on the podcast who can really speak to this and really give us so much more of the perspective of why this is so important. So I’m so stoked you’re here.

Yeah, thank you so much. I am just honored to be here and I’m really excited to dig into this today.

Yeah, I was thinking, like, you know, how we connected because I think we’ve just known each other on Instagram for a long time and have had, you know, similar businesses and connected through that in the past. And then it’s been fun to watch your journey of going into human design and like talking about that more and speaking to it. And just from my perspective of watching, I only really, I think, started digging into human design, I want to say more than a year ago. Maybe it’s been like a year and a half or something, but when I found it, it really was a game changer for me because I never felt like I really resonated with some of these personality things or, and not to throw them out into the trash, but I just, I will say like, I thought something was kind of in a sense wrong with me because I can’t, like, for me, I can’t just stay in a box.

I do with work and I feel like I felt very misunderstood in that way. And then I found human design and discovered I’m a manifesting generator, which I know you’re going to speak to some of these, but like, it was so empowering for me. It was just like a game changer. And then I wound up learning about human design for my kids, which was actually really helpful with knowing how to parent my kids and like how to even discipline or support structure. I mean, it’s just been, and now like, you know, anybody I work with business wise, or even my clients, I like to know their human design. Cause I know kind of how to tailor some of the stuff I give to them. So for you, I’d love to know, like what even brought you to human design? Like, how’d you find out about it? What like was like this light bulb moment of like, this is my jam. I’m here for this.

Yeah. That’s a great question. I love that. And I love that you like in typical manifesting generator fashion, like love to try all the things and find what’s best for you. And then I feel like we have that element of just like going deep into our passions, you know, and deep into like, what’s like, um, resonates with us.

And so, yeah, I actually found it human design about, it was around 2021 or maybe a little bit earlier. So it’s been about you, like with you too, over a year and a half and I was really digging into astrology. That’s kind of how I found human design. And just, I was in this place of awakening, if you will, like a spiritual awakening. And, um, I always hear the thing. It’s like, astrology finds you in like your darkest times and I was definitely there. And that’s kind of what led me into astrology and then I just stumbled on this rabbit hole of human design and once I saw it, I felt the same as you. It was just like, I felt so seen for the first time and I was like, I have to know more because I also never really resonated with a lot of personality type things and, um, I just felt like nothing could ever really like, give me an exact, like, sense of, like, validation or, like, permission slip to be me and that’s exactly what human design has given me.

And so, yeah, I kind of stumbled upon it over a year ago and it has just made all the difference, has been such a game changer and in my life and awakening. And it was just like a bridge of my life from kind of my old previous beliefs and to where I am now. And so, yeah, that’s a little bit about how I, I stumbled on human design.

Yeah, I love that you mentioned that with just this awakening period that’s been on my mind a lot lately because I really do believe like that was 2020 in a nutshell. It like required people to really, I always say this, I really feel like it was 1000 percent spiritual. Like it was a big massive shift of are you going to release old identities and step into new ones or are you going to stay the same?

Yeah. Cause I feel like that was a hundred percent my life and my experience and what happens during that time is you kind of reference to is, you know, there can be a lot of low points. It’s like, yeah, dark nights of the soul. And also just kind of like, you know, it’s not all happy, joy, joy. Like you are really be more tired. You can be more sad, you know, cause you’re really kind of having these like soul jarring moments. And, um, you know, I think what’s so special, like you said about human design is that it kind of gives this glimpse of like how I see it is like how you show, how you show up to the world like, you know, and like what your giftings are. And I think that like you said, you know people feel misunderstood or just like not have that validation, but it’s like once people understand their human design, they’re like, oh, okay like this is why I kind of have these preferences or how like even how I respond.

And you know, I’ve done kind of more like explored my profile a little bit, but I really need to do a deep dive and, um, clearly work with you. But anyways, uh, you know, I’d love to know, you know, as far as human design, what’s your human design and if you can give us a little bit of a basics of what each human design type, like if you could sum it up is kind of like something that?

Yeah, for sure. And before I go into that, like, um. I want to give, like, the basics of human design. So it was actually created, um, in 1987 by Rahu and it’s made up of four, like, ancient wisdoms. So it includes Western astrology, um, the chakra system. A lot of people have heard the chakras, the Kabbalah tree of life, and the Chinese I Ching. And so all these ancient wisdoms come together to create human design, which is essentially like an energetic blueprint of you. And it’s like how your energy is meant to operate and work best with other people. And, um, so I think of like, astrology is like this map of your life, but of like your whole life, but, um, human design is like the day to day steps, practical steps that you can take to be more in alignment and moving through your life.

And, um, so just moving in with more flow and ease and, um, yeah, so that’s kind of what it is. It can show us where we’ve been conditioned, um, through growing up and in like unraveling the layers of that you get to like your soul’s truest essence. And how you can like on a day to day basis, live that out and embody your soul’s true essence. So that’s kind of the basics of how I like to explain it because there’s a lot out there and it can be a little overwhelming. So I like to kind of just like put it out like that.

Well, I love that it was founded in 1987 because that’s the year I was born. So I’m already really paying attention. I was like, wow, that’s cool. Yeah. Yeah. No, I love it. And before you even explain some of the basic profiles. I’d love for you to just preface, you know, I think people that are not familiar with kind of like, you know, these different ancient wisdoms.

Yeah.

You know, um, or just they’re kind of like, oh, you know, like maybe newer to understanding that energy. I mean, what kind of helped you with seeing how that was just an important aspect for your health and life?

Yeah, that’s a good question. Um. In terms of like energy, essentially?

Yeah, just understanding, I think people get lost on just like, you know, something they don’t understand. But, you know, it sounds like what brought you to it is just understanding, like, there was something more.

Yeah, yeah. Um, so it kind of goes, what I would say is it kind of goes back to when I was talking about like an awakening, it really was me kind of identifying that we are all one and that our, um, I think of it as like, we’re, we’re not separated from God or source. And so that’s within us. And so when we can really tap into that divine essence and like that divinity within us, um, we can more so live out our soul’s purpose.

And in terms of like energy too, I’ll talk more about this when we talk about manifesting generators, but it really is like on a level of health and wellness when you are in alignment with your energy and how it’s meant to operate. That is when you are like living in like such a high frequency or vitality for your health and wellness. So like using this and your design and embodying it, like you are, you can be the healthiest, most physically like vital, you know, in your life. So it’s just, it’s really huge.

Yeah, I love that you mentioned that because I think for some people they don’t understand that these tools can actually bring them that higher vitality, can bring them closer to God or just getting that spiritual awareness in their life, you know? And similarly, and I could talk about this for days, I really feel like people don’t recognize the massive amount of conditioning that we have. And I really believe everybody comes into this world with incredible gifts, God given gifts that, you know, we’re, we’re actually very much able to tap into miraculous gifts. And so, you know, I think about the innocence of a child and how they see the world and how they’re just so connected and in tune and observant.

And then we lose that and we don’t recognize instead, we judge the child when actually they’re like, so they’re in tune with their gifts. They’re aware. They’re not acting out of all this conditioning yet, you know? And yeah, yeah that I think that um, you know, what is It’s really powerful is to understand how human design is one of those things that can really expand your health and all these areas of life, you know? Um, because it really is returning back to yourself, you know, and I think that’s just sum it up. I think that’s what the healing journey is all about. But anyways.

Yeah, no, exactly. So I love. And that’s actually what I work with, um, one on one. And that’s, um, what I focus on is like coming back to your body, coming back to yourself and remembering that it’s all within you and diving deep. And, you know, we could go into roots and all of that, but yeah, that’s huge. And so I could go ahead and get into like the energy types. Is that good?

Yeah, I think that would be so helpful. And also, I don’t know if you have a, like a recommendation, we can put it in the show notes of like what you think is the best place to just, you know, clearly I want people to like do the more of the deep dive. But I mean, there’s places that people can do like a quick quiz and just get their general, okay, this is your type. But yeah, so yeah, I’m curious, like if you could give just a disclaimer of each. That would be, helpful.

Yeah. Oh yeah. So there’s five energy types and your energy type shows you how your energy is best meant to operate and be exchanged with others around you. And um, so we have five. We have manifesting generators, which we both are. Generators, manifestors, projectors, and reflectors.

So generators and manifesting generators make up like the majority of the population. And actually manifesting generators are a hybrid between manifestors and generators. So we’re essentially still generators. But we do have, like, this aspect of that manifestor energy in us. And especially, I looked at your chart, you are a pure manifesting generator, so you do have that, um, that manifestor energy too, so you might relate to, um, the manifestor aura and maybe strategy and, like, how they’re meant to use their energy as well.

And, um, so, generators or as are as well as manifesting generators, we are open and enveloping. So we’re very magnetic and we attract opportunities to us. Um, through our sacral center, which is like your life force energy. So in following what you love and do and working and following your joy, you are magnetic and bringing in more things to respond to. And a projector, their aura is, like, focused and absorbed, so they are kind of like our guides, they’re really here to absorb and go into other people’s auras or energy and help guide us to, like, use our energy most efficiently.

Manifestors are here to, like, get things started, so their aura is closed and repelling. So the way that they use their energy is, like, really by just being their big, bold selves. And it might close other people off, but those are, like, just not their people, and they’re meant to just initiate and really make change and start change here. Um, and then reflectors are our mirrors, and they reflect back to us, so their auras are, um, you could say sampling, so they’re very open. And they can just be a mirror back to us. They are earth mirror and, um, showing us our conditioning and everything. It’s really, really cool. So that’s like a little bit of the energy types. I hope that that made sense.

Well, I was thinking because, um, I think reflectors are only like 1 percent of the population, right? So I actually haven’t even met a reflector in real life. I was just talking about this with some friends yesterday. I was like, I haven’t even met someone in real life. I know somebody that I love as a podcast person who, um, is a reflector, but, uh, they’re kind of more rare and I’m wondering why is that? I forget. Maybe there’s an explanation.

Yeah, I think it’s because, well, it’s like they’re 1 percent. They’re all their centers are completely open, which means they just don’t have a lot of definition. You know, I don’t really know exactly, like, why it’s such a small percentage, so I really don’t know that.

Yeah, it’s interesting, you know. And, um, as far as, like, percentage of people, is it, it’s manifesting generators are the biggest, right? And generators in general. And then is it projectors and manifestors are next?

Yeah, it’s generators, manifesting generators, projectors, then manifestors are like 8%, and then reflectors. But see, what’s really cool and, you know, kind of why I feel like reflectors are such a small percentage is we are, what human design shows us, which is amazing, is that we’re all unique individuals and creative and you know, our own expressions. But when we come together, we can make this collective puzzle together. So we’re all different puzzle pieces and that’s how we fit together so well. So reflectors are mirroring back. Manifestors get the change started, projectors are guiding that energy and then generators and manifesting generators are like the workers, you know? We’re putting in the work to like, make all this collective change happen.

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I love that you mentioned with manifesting generators because I’ve really learned this about myself in the last two years and I think a lot of people aren’t necessarily guiding themselves with this, but I have to be letting my life and work and everything, there has to be a foundation of joy. Like I have to be, that’s like what drives me is that I have to be having like fun and joy. Like it’s just for me finding that too within manifesting generator was so helpful because that’s again, not like what we’re conditioned to do. It’s like, you know, kind of hold one thing with work life and all of that.

And I think that’s why I’ve noticed personally that a lot of manifesting generators really flourish as entrepreneurs. Because they really can’t be boxed in. They have to feel like in their own like element and zone. And I’m curious, I’m not actually really familiar with gene keys, so I’m curious what those are and how does that compliment human design?

Yeah. Oh, it’s like my favorite. Um, so if you’ve looked at a human design chart, you’ve seen, you know, the shapes are your centers and there’s these numbers within your centers. And those are your gates. This is like how your specific energy flows. And so those gates actually come from the wisdom, ancient wisdom I was talking about earlier, the I Ching, Chinese I Ching.

And so, Richard Rudd, who is, um, the one who created the Gene Keys, he was a student of Rao Ruohu, who created human design. So he kind of created, Richard Rudd created the Gene Keys, which are aligned with the Chinese I Ching. And they’re just based off like the 64 archetypes that we all have access to in the human experience. Um, but he takes it a step further and aligns them with our, like, actual genetic DNA, like, 64 codons. So, it’s essentially like, um, yeah, you have, I’ll give an example for you. Your conscious sun is in gate 19, so, um, that is where the sun was in the, um, when you were born. It’s like the exact etching that it, uh, correlates to when you were born.

And so Richard Rudd takes that a step further with the gene keys and he’s like, okay, so your sun is in gate 19, you have this specific genetic codon or gene key in your genes that is to be sensitive of the needs of others without sacrificing yourself. So he’s like, you can be operating at the shadow frequency of this gene key. Um, the gift or the highest frequency. So it really just shows you like, are you being a victim of this energy or empowered by it? And how can you move from that shadow frequency to the highest frequency of this gene key or this gate in your human design?

Wow. Well, I feel like I need to read Gene Keys, but…

You would love it.

I know I saw that you had shared with me, like that’s a book that you’re reading or had read or recommended and I was like, oh my gosh, I need to read it. Um, but yeah, that’s so fascinating to me because it really is true. I mean, I really have come to, even having like all this Functional medicine training and root cause, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, it’s just, I think at the end of the day, what people don’t realize is that, you know, health issues arise when we’re not in alignment with ourselves, and symptoms are actually a really late sign. And, um, you know, I think that I found that once, you know, we accept that symptoms are just like communicators of where we’re not aligned and where we need to shift that we actually start seeing the body start to resolve. And it’s like, I don’t want to say it’s, um, you know, some of that I feel like is incorporated or referred to even with Chinese medicine or even, you know, looking from a German new medicine perspective, like, how is the body resolving conflicts or different shocks or different patterns, you know? And, um, I think what, what’s so helpful with just human design is like, you know, understanding that, like, going a step further, like, going a little bit deeper to be like, okay, you know, this is kind of how I came to the world. And you know, so I feel like you just saying that about kind of helping that with others. I think what’s shown up on my profile before is that I’m a liberator Just you know, it’s like people see me I think like they confide in me and then I like yeah side of that I like help like liberate people but like you were saying if I get too caught up in like I get entrenched in it, like I feel

Yeah.

Very unhappy. Like I feel like I’m being kind of like the battery pack for people and I hate that. Yeah. I hate, hate, hate it, and, right. I’ve noticed times of my life when I’ve dealt with that. Like I, I deal with adrenal fatigue when that happens. And burnout. Yeah. Like. And so it’s like recognizing where you need to have better boundaries and just like, you know, do things a little bit differently, which means like, you’re not always liked. So I think so much of this is just, you know, like with you, would you say a lot of it is getting to know yourself better and building better self trust?

Oh, yeah, for sure. And I think the biggest thing when I found human design was like the awareness around the places that I had been conditioned for so long and I thought those were me, but after unraveling the conditioning through, you know, human design and gene keys, I’m like, wait, like this is actually the core of who I am.

And it’s just, I’ve been operating out of this shadow frequency for so long, you know, and it’s shown up in my life as yeah, adrenal fatigue or burnout and all these things. And it’s like, um, once you get to like that core, it’s like, how can I just invite in like gentleness and self love to these places and really acknowledge them instead of like pushing them down and out because I thought it was wrong or bad, you know?

Um, and so, yeah, it’s just, it’s huge when you finally come to that awareness and understanding. It’s like, it’s just all meant to be held and loved, you know?

Totally. And I know we were talking about a little bit about human design for kids. So I’d love to know where do you feel like this is really helpful when it comes to supporting your kids? Do you use human design with your kids, like understanding how to support them?

Yeah. Yeah, I do. Um, I really love, I mean, it’s been huge for my, my oldest. They usually say, like, around the age of, like, seven is when you can kind of, like, start to incorporate. Um, but I’ve really been noticing a lot, like, in my son, who’s about to be five. And, um, I mean, even my youngest, my youngest, he’s about to be two. But, like, his digestion, this is, like, really in depth, but his digestion is, like, um, and he has to have like low sound and he anytime there’s like noise, he cannot eat. Like he’s so distracted and this affects his digestion and how he takes in food and information and so even just like that is the little things is so helpful and like just supporting them with like the most aligned, you know, in the most aligned way.

Oh my gosh, well, I’ve already like, oh my gosh, I have to do a deep dive on all my kids like, wow. Yeah, that’s really helpful to know. I will tell you, and I had brought this up to a friend yesterday of, you know, it’s funny, my middle child, Harrison. It’s always been kind of, I mean, it’s, we always say like second child, you know, like really, they’re really a good teacher, um, gives me a run for my money.

And you know, what’s funny is I actually had looked at his human design. You know, I can’t explain all the details of it, but what was very interesting to me was that it was almost exactly the same as mine, except that he’s a generator. And it was very interesting to me because I guess it just gave me a lot of perspective and a lot of, um, it really humbled me in the sense that I was like, you know, these areas that sometimes I get very frustrated with him on is probably just, you know, it’s always a mirror, right? Like, you know, and I’m like, oh my gosh, your human design is just like mine. It was kind of like, well, you know, am I judging these parts of myself, you know, or judging you’re, you’re so like, so able to just be free and like, you know, like, just like, doesn’t fear.

And it’s just like, I mean, every aspect of him and I’ve always felt very like a, a spiritual, like there’s something spiritual there. And then it was like, when I did the human design, I was like, oh my gosh, like, and it really, I shifted a little bit of how I even did like any sort of like discipline or, you know, cause I learned, like, I think his big thing was like, I realized he really needed touch.

He really needed, you know, so I just had to like shift some things and it really made such a big difference. It was very empowering for me as a parent because I was like, I just really felt like I finally could understand on a different level. And I think, you know, I will share, and I’m sure you’ve seen this, you know. Because I work within like metaphysical healing and what people don’t realize is, you know, things in childhood disease like autism, ADHD, like some of these chronic illness patterns. We can’t just look at the child. We have to look at the parents and we have to look at some of the generational inner conflict issues that are resolved.

And, um, you know, that comes up a lot where there’s like these control patterns or, or kind of, um, restriction patterns in the parent that are presenting now physically within the child. And that’s why it’s so important I feel like, to do this kind of work, you know, because, you know, it has a generational impact. So I’m curious, you know, when you say you do the coaching with human design, what does that entail? So would people then get their, um, you know, a deep dive and then just guidance on how to optimize these areas? What does that typically entail?

Yeah. So I really like to be, um, I really essentially like a, three sessions with you. Um, and then going deeper every time. So I always, always, always start with the basics because if you’re not in operating with your energy type strategy and authority, like then nothing else is going to align. Like you have to have those, um, those first. So I always start with those, but then from there, I just go more in depth and I really do it based on the individual.

Like, what is something that you’re working through in your life right now? And that you’re wanting to either improve on, or maybe you feel like you’re stuck or having setbacks. Um, or even we can just look at the conditioning and, um, places that you feel like you’re being held back out of conditioning and then going deeper from there and unraveling the, um, your conditioning, like what’s the fear there? Are there any places in your body that you’re feeling the sensation and just going really, really deep in that sense. One thing that I did when, um, when I was getting mentored through my human design and ultimately is why I chose to do this as well, because it made such an impact on me was, um, like embodiment. So like somatic practices and learning to embody your design.

So whether that’s like through meditation, um, together and just essentially just being a guide, you know, because I believe that we all have the answers within us. And that all of our powers within us, it’s just really, um, guiding them or to go back within and to get in touch with those things so that they feel empowered in making the changes on their own and for diving deep into their healing on their own. So really just a guide to like further help them, um, dig deep.

Yeah. So do you offer then for people to kind of do their whole family if they want to look into their kids?

Yeah, I actually haven’t, like, done that before, but it’s definitely something, especially as I’ve been getting into the Gene Keys, um, and just seeing, like, how much of an instrument this can be in parent, for parents and for families and relationship wise, so it’s not something I’ve done yet, but it’s definitely been on my mind and in the works for sure.

Yeah, I’m trying to find I was like, what is the book that I read? Oh, it was parenting the child you have and reimagining the parent child relationship through the lens of human design. I have a book and I’ve read like, my toxic trait is, trait is I buy a new book each week and then I get like a quarter through it and I need to finish it. So anyways, I have the book. I’ve read probably a quarter or a third of it. Um, but it was very, very eye opening.

I think I just still need to, I mean, this is why somebody would utilize you as well as just, you know, I don’t totally understand all the shapes and numbers and everything yet.

Right.

But, you know, it was really helpful because, you know, my oldest and my youngest are manifesting generators and so, and, you know, very interestingly, my husband is a projector, which I think is why we, why we get along because I really can’t imagine being married to a manifesting generator. I’m sure, I don’t know what your husband is.

Oh, I am. Yeah, you are. Yeah.

So you guys generate quite a bit. I’m, I’m sure. Yeah. It’s, it’s very interesting because, you know, I like to say my husband is very much like, he 100 percent grounds me like, you know, I’m always on this, like, go, go, go high. And like, you know, he’s very much a grounding and just like, you know, kind of, like you said, they’re kind of like a guide, you know. Like I, my business coach is a projector as well. And it’s just very interesting thing, um, that I kind of find myself kind of drawn to that coaching type, but yeah, it’s very interesting and I really feel like what is so interesting about it too is it’s very helpful in the business world.

Like as far as kind of, I feel like when I know somebody’s human design that I’m working with business wise, it just completely shifts what I like, how to be able to support them. Like, and so I really feel like there’s such a big need for your work in like corporate, you know, in the corporate field. Just really understanding where to support employees and different people where they’re at, you know? So I’m excited that more and more people are becoming aware of human design and just, you know, I’m curious if you have any resources that you like to refer people to to start if they’re like brand new to the topic?

Yeah. So kind of like what you had mentioned, um, Jenna Zoe, who is like the human design, you can find her on Instagram. They haven’t, she has an app and you can get like your basic chart. Um, but she goes more in depth and gives you like a little bit of, um, a little bit more on each thing. So she’ll kind of explain your type and all the gifts that you have in that sense. So that’s kind of what I tell people. You can look that up. Um, the app is great.

And you mentioned a business, I don’t know if you looked up, I think her name is Phoebe Kuhn, or like K U H N, she is Australian. I love her, she is, oh my gosh, she has, she’s so successful in her work, but she uses human design for her whole team, so like, she has certain people as generators, certain projectors and reflectors, and she uses it all. Um, and she’s really successful in like, terms of using human design in business. Um, so yeah, I always say the human design app for sure, and, and then a basic reading, even like, even if you’re just like, uh, like, I’m kind of curious, but I’m just like, not sure that’s where you could get a basic human design reading, which I also offer.

And then, if you always, if you want to go more in depth and dive deep into the deeper parts as well as your conditioning, you can always, you know, add, like, do another session, but I just say a basic for sure, because you’ll learn your energy type, strategy, and authority, and those are just like the most important to start embodying your design.

I love that. Yeah, I just wrote down www.instagram.com/phoebekuhn, so I’ll have to find her and put her in the show notes. So the other thing that I love, love, love to ask, you know, and just be able to hear like your thoughts when it comes to what like health and healing means to you now, especially having gone through your story and you know the healing journey you’ve been on. The healing journey that you’ve supported your kids through. What do health healing and vitality mean to you now? Like yeah, how would you kind of define that?

Yeah, so three words I could think of were play, peace and flow. And this comes a lot down to when I learned my design as a manifesting generator, I was really kind of like what you mentioned with your kids. Like they’re so free and I was much in this like serious place. of living and you know, just as we’re conditioned, you grow up, you’re an adult and like you have these serious things to do. But play and being innocent and in the way that we view life is so important. And so, um, learning to tap back into that through my healing and through my design has been huge as well as that piece that is like the, um, a signature theme of a manifestor, so we also have this when you are in alignment, you feel this sense of peace. And I think I relate to you a lot when, you know, going from, from this place of in childhood being very chaotic and kind of taking that on through life and realizing, wow, I’ve been like operating out of chaos, you know?

And so coming back to this place of peace. And, um, being in more and more flow in my life and joy. And so that’s probably what health and healing means to me. Coming back to my body, being, um, just present and grounded and in that pace, place of peace and flow.

I love it so much. I mean, you hit the nail on the head. I was thinking when I, you know, I always send out to everybody some questions when it comes to the podcast and Kelsey had put down, play, peace and flow for just health. And, you know, how you described it so eloquently was just so, it resonated so much because yeah, it’s kind of like I’ve learned for me that uh, like you said, it’s like we have these talents where we can, we’re really good at business. We can get things done. That’s not a problem, but I’ve realized that when I allow and make time for the play and the peace and just kind of like that kind of rediscovering those spontaneous parts of myself, that is when I’m the happiest person. And that is like, it kind of directs everything else.

And so, I realized, you know, gosh, I was like, when was the last time that I really did that? You know, I had that realization, like, you know, I think like a year ago. I was like, oh my gosh, I don’t do any of this stuff, you know, and that is so much of the foundation of, um, a lot of somatic work and brain retraining work and you know, kind of learning how to do that again. And yeah, I think like, you know, you mentioned it so much of it is coming back to that child part of ourselves, that things that we see that sometimes we judge or we’re like, you know, not, we have confusion around and then we’re like, oh, okay, you know, this is exactly what I’m needing.

So, um, I will say like, it’s funny, I feel like with flow, what people, when people are telling me that they feel stuck or, you know, you see it with like stagnant lymph, lymph fluid and just like more chronic illness, uh, components, there’s always a lack of flow there. And it’s really kind of hard to learn that because, you know, what we don’t recognize is that we have all these subconscious patterns that are just kind of preventing us from going there. So I love that. That’s just part of like, kind of discovering those aspects is something you can do through human design. So yeah, I’m like, I’m so excited about just everything that you shared and just like all the helpful tips and wisdom, because I just can’t wait to do even more deep diving here. And for everybody listening to do the same, because, I do 100 percent feel like it is one of those things that people really should learn, know, and do.

Like, it’s just, you know, like I, I mentioned earlier, like I asked all my clients what their human design is, or I give them a quiz if they don’t know, because it just, it’s one of those things that really is helpful for me. And I find most people have not heard of it. So there’s definitely still a lot of work to be done with helping people become aware of it. So yeah, I’m, I’m so excited that we got to have you on. I know we’ve been talking about this and yeah, where can people find you? Where can they connect with your work? Um, I know you were mentioning there’s some different one on one options you have.

Yeah. Well, thanks so much for having me. It was so great to finally like talk with you and I just love diving deep on all of it with you. But, um, I have just started a new Instagram for my business. It’s www.instagram.com/kosmiccreators. So cosmic with a K. Um, Kosmic Creators on Instagram and I do offer one on ones. Um, I will be launching a program soon. So if you are listening to this podcast, I’m sure Lindsay will have it down in the notes below, but you can also DM me a code. Um, Awaken15 and that’ll get you 15 percent off of your first reading with me.

Um, and yeah, I would love if you’re ready to awaken and remember who you are and just come back to that, um, core knowing I would love to meet with you.

I like got chills. I was like starting to tear up. Um, it’s just such good work. I’m like excited for you and I don’t know. I’m, I’m in like the luteal phase of my cycle. So we’re getting there. Uh, but thank you so much for that generous code. I’m so excited for people to connect with you. I mean, it’s just such profound work. So I’m excited for people to start the work. So thanks so much, Kelsey. I can’t wait for this to go live and I’ll. chat with you soon.

Thanks, Lindsay.

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