Hi guys. This is Lindsay, your host for the Untethered with Lindsay Tuttle NP podcast, where we go deep on truly becoming untethered in your life and health and experiencing exponential freedom. We have the radical and uncensored conversations you have been craving and give you the tools for expansion and growth. I’m so glad that you are here and I can’t wait to connect with you.
Hey friends. I’m so excited to introduce to you, a special friend and a teacher of mine that I have learned so much from. I have my friend Tracy Southwick here. Tracy is a naturopath, that has been serving others in the holistic health world for over 28 years. Her passion has always been to educate and inspire all people to address their health concerns from a mind, body, spirit perspective.
Through the years, Tracy has hosted three radio popular shows, had regular appearances on Fox. 26 in Houston and spoken at multiple conferences and seminars. Her love of teaching led to the creation of MindBodySpiritRelease Academy in 2020, through which she and her staff train health practitioners and doctors from around the world how to integrate her proprietary holistic technique into their practices.
This technique, MindBodySpiritRelease both identifies and helps clients and patients release unprocessed emotions and limiting beliefs so that they’re best able to heal. Her unique and effective technique is rapidly becoming a game changer in the field of holistic medicine as a popular and innovative emotional release technique, which I can attest to everything here that is said.
Um, as you guys may or may not know if you’re listening, I am a mind body spirit release practitioner who’s learned through Tracy. So I could not be more excited to have you here, Tracy.
Oh, thank you, Lindsay. I’m so honored to be here. And you are such an amazing person serving, like I, like you just read, you’re serving so many people and helping so many people and you are an amazing mind body spirit release, uh, practitioner, so I’m honored to be here. Thank you.
Yeah, I mean, I guess we met back in. I came back last October. I was thinking about it because I just got to, um, um, or I was just thinking like, when did I actually start this? And it was last year, last October. And so it’s crazy that it’s been about a year now that I flew to Houston to be able to do some of my learning in person with you guys at your Heights of Health in, in Houston. And it was just such an incredible experience. Of course, I mean, virtual learning is great, but there’s magic that happens at live.
Yes, absolutely. And that was, that was an amazing magical class, too. It was so funny. You guys just sat outside on the back. I remember after class, just the group of you just sat there. I had to go home and Cheryl, uh, one of the other… teachers said, you know, you guys really need to leave, but nobody wanted to, everybody was just, uh, just so connected and, um, sharing their experiences. It was just so wonderful to see that. I know some of you are still in connection with each other too.
Oh, totally. Yeah. What was so funny about that was, I think we wound up being on the porch quite a bit deep diving into a lot of conspiracies and hot topics. So that was a great, a great time busy. So Tracy, something that I love to ask people, and I don’t even know if you know this, but it’s something I love to ask people who come on to the podcast is what your human design is. Do you happen to know?
I do. And I, I mean, I know so little about it.
Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. Which makes so much sense. Yeah. Yeah. Manifesting generator. Yep.
Yeah. I know I need to get with you to learn more about how to optimize that.
Yeah. What’s funny is I did a podcast episode with someone who specializes in human design, so that will be going live. And, uh, I feel like it’s one of those things that is so fascinating to learn about and is really helpful, especially for my clients, just knowing how to, kind of just how they tick and how to support them, especially when it comes to business. And so when you told me that you were a manifesting generator, I was like, that makes so much sense because manifesting generators, I feel like they’ve lived 20 lifetimes when it comes to work and projects.
And like, yeah, yeah. We’re just like, we just get ideas all the time. And we’re, we’re ready to go. So I would love to know Tracy. And I think I’ve heard glimpses of this before, and I can’t wait to hear more of the story. What brought you to create mind body spirit release? Because I think like you went through your own health journey and really a lot of rock bottoms that really pointed you to this needing to be created?
Absolutely. You know, like probably many of the people listening to this podcast, and I know you for sure, you know, with your family and things that you have experienced, it’s like, once you learn that the body can heal itself, and once you learn that there’s another way to do it, um, you know, it’s, it’s like, you can’t not go down that path. So, I was very, very much entrenched in Western medicine and, you know, grew up going to the doctor. Every time I had a sniffle, I was on, you know, antibiotics and allergy shots and, you know, all kinds of stuff. I had tubes in my ears twice.
You know, it was just like, I was constantly I remember thinking at one point, okay, this is what they mean when they talk about a sickly child. And on the outside people, other than me missing a lot of school, people didn’t realize how sick I was, how tired I was, how, you know, I just kind of pushed myself through life. And, um, was actually in school to become an aerospace engineer and just realized it was not the path I wanted to take. And I cratered after that. I got really sick and had to drop out and, um, go back and live with my parents. And well, I’m kind of integrating 2 stories, but I did get better. And then I got married, um, and came home from the honeymoon and couldn’t get out of bed for months and went from doctor to doctor to doctor trying to figure out what was going on and, um, it was, it was not a fun time.
And finally, a doctor. And this was in the, in the mid nineties. So it wasn’t a common, people were not looking at things like Lyme. They weren’t looking at Epstein Barr virus. They weren’t looking at mold, certainly. Um, and so I, I got a diagnosis finally from an infectious disease doctor who said, you’ve got, you know, super high titers. You’ve got Epstein Barr virus. Of course, he didn’t understand, you know, that’s usually an indication that there are other things going on. It’s just, um, that, that was the title or the diagnosis they gave me. And he said, there’s nothing I can do. You’re going to be in and out of the, you know, bed for the rest of your life.
I was 23 at the time. And he said, you know, you’re never going to be able to hold down a job. It’s just, this is how your life’s going to be. And here’s a prescription for Prozac because there’s nothing that I can do to help you, except give you Prozac. And I, you know, promptly tore up the prescription and said, this isn’t, you know, this isn’t going to fix anything. I’m not depressed. I’m getting depressed. Right? Because you’re telling me things. Um, so I ended up, um, by, you know, um, very, very amazing neighbor said, I think you need to go to a health food store. I think they might be able to help you. They helped my husband with his allergies and I was like, I’ve got nothing to lose and my mother drove over and picked me up because I couldn’t drive myself. I was so sick. You know, she had to help me to the car and help me into the health food store.
And, um, and the woman in there just looked at me. She goes, oh, that’s easy. All you have to do is change your diet. I was living off of sugar. Everybody’s bringing over cakes and cookies because I was sick. Right? Um. And they were just, that was how they were trying to show love and support. So I was just, whatever was easy. I was eating pasta and cakes and cookies and diet, Dr. Pepper. So it was like my…
I know that had been the worst time. Like the nineties was the sugar free era of just, oh man. Um, and then you were still in the South, right? So that’s like the love languages food
Oh my goodness. That’s wild. And there probably wasn’t that many health food stores.
That it was, it was a town, it was probably half an hour away from where I was living. I was living homesteading like you at that time, not doing a whole lot of homesteading because I was so sick, but I, um, I had raging Candida, I mean raging, like it was awful. It was, you know, coming out of my skin kind of stuff. And you know, on top of the Epstein bar. So I, I listened to this woman. I started taking the supplement she recommended, I changed my diet and literally within two weeks I was out of bed. It was, it was a game changer for me. It was so dramatic.
Oh my gosh. Okay. But also I want to know what the supplement was.
I know, I know. It was actually a combination of some Chinese herbs. It was several different things. So some Chinese herbs that were kind of, um, you know, it was a combination actually that was made for, um, uh, what was it made for? It was an antiviral and immune.
Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking like L lysine came to mind.
And I was going to say, and I took L lysine was another one. Um, and probably lots of vitamin C and things.
So you weren’t a naturopath at the time, clearly.
Not at all.
Okay. So did that, that experience led you to be interested in that?
Absolutely. And I was like, wait a second, there’s something other than what I’ve been taught all my life? And so I just started, you know, We didn’t have the Internet back then. So you’re, you know, you get magazines, health magazines, and you’d go to the back of the magazine and there would be a place where you could send a check with a little order form. Like, you would, you would tear out the order form. And write your name and address with the check and 6 weeks later, or 4 weeks later, you get a book in the mail.
And so I did this for as many places as I could and just got so much information and would just pour through these books to learn more and more. And then I started going to conferences. And I ended up, within a year of that, opening up a health food store in Fredericksburg, Texas, which is a health, it’s a great kind of destination for tourists and stuff. It’s a really neat town in the hill country. And that’s just when things took off. I started my radio show radio show back then because. We had radio shows back then.
I know you’re really taking me back to the 90s and early 2000s when you’re talking about like mailing in things, like little papers to get books in the mail of like, wait, I remember that. So wild.
Yeah. We’d get the Netflix DVDs in the mail. Um, so I, I just that’s when I went to school to become a naturopath during that period. And, um, and I got very healthy physically during that period. And I always knew that there was an emotional component to it. So, that’s kind of, but I didn’t know what to do with it. Like, I had Louise Hay’s books and I had. Um, you know, all these books that were there and I’d say, oh, you’ve got an ear infection. Maybe there’s something that you’re not hearing or you’re, you know, you’ve got a sore throat. Maybe there’s, you know, so I would tell people about these things, but I never knew how to address them. I never knew how, um, I would do muscle testing so I could kind of hone in on stuff, but I never knew what to do about it.
I love that you mentioned Louise Hay because I feel like that was the first seed that was planted for me. Um, just like as far as emotional components, like, uh, it was definitely, I think at the beginning of my journey and I wasn’t ready to learn about that quite yet.
So, but that was her books and You Can Hear Your Life was just the initial point of me realizing, oh my gosh, there really is an emotional component.
That’s so funny. That was that was the game changer. That book was for me. Um, I loved it. I even I had it, I would sell it to people and I had the Spanish version and the English version because there was, you know, we just, I wanted so many people to, uh, to be able to to have that reference. Um, but, you know, you can, identifying things is super, super important, but also knowing what to do with it. So I, I ended up becoming trained in, this is early 2000s and something called NAET. Um, I studied, uh, NAET just because my daughter had a milk allergy. And it was cheaper for me to fly to LA to become trained than it was for me to go to a practitioner. So I went to LA and became trained.
That’s wild. And what a cool thing that you got trained in. I bet it’s not, not as affordable now. I have a few clients that they, work with NAET people alongside doing work with me and I’d love to learn more about it. I mean or just to experience going to a class with it because it just seems so cool I mean, it’s such a great alternative to people going to allergists.
Absolutely, and it can be very very effective and I I loved it and it worked for my daughter’s um, milk allergy. It was, it was, it was a game changer for her, uh, behaviorally and, you know, a rash that had never gone away, went away. And, um, she stopped having accidents. She was being potty trained at the time. She stopped having accidents. I mean, it was, it was really a game changer. So I started integrating it into my practice. And then there’s actually kind of a, uh, a module that they teach at NAET, which is, I believe it’s all online now because I looked it up recently. I believe it’s all online, which, like you said earlier, I, I love the ability to have things online, but there’s just something really special about the in person component to, um.
But the, uh, there’s an emotional kind of clearing component to it. Uh, it’s, it’s very simplistic, which is beautiful, but it’s, um, it, it, it was like a light went off and I went, oh, my goodness, this is it. This is what I’ve been missing. So I started integrating that into my practice and it kind of morphed into something very, very different, but the same concept. I tested for years how to do emotional clearing in a different way. I use a laser, a laser on some acupuncture points and meridians and to release the emotions. But I expanded it greatly. It was, it was actually, I was living in London at the time and 2013 or 14, and I just kind of woke up with this, this is how to do it kind of thing, you know.
I thought I heard that maybe it was like a dream you had or something that was like, you woke up and you were like, okay, this is, this is it.
It was bizarre. It was just like this crazy download that I went like, this is it. This is how it’s all going to work together. Cause I had been thinking like mulling over it, how can I make this work? And so I created through the years, like. Many, many different charts and ways to look at, um, what kinds of things can be stuck in the body emotions, you can be holding on to. Anything from generational clearing or generational blocks to, like issues with people and places and, um, you know, we all know this when you walk into a certain place, all of a sudden you’ve got this, this memory comes back. Or you smell something and this memory comes back and it floods you with all these, you know, neurotransmitters and hormones that take you back to that initial event or stress that imprinted something on you, whether it’s positive or negative, right?
The cologne that somebody’s wearing, or, um, you know, the taste of something. We’ve all got these memories that we hold on to on our bodies. And so I wanted to create something very comprehensive that you could get into things like like I was saying, the generational blocks or the miasms. And even things that were brought into our, um, our bodies from before we were born. And I think that that’s one of the things that, um, people just don’t, uh, recognize that sometimes people will say, well, I always felt that way, but it didn’t feel like me. Like I always, I don’t know where this limiting belief came from. It doesn’t, it doesn’t make sense that I think this way, or I feel this way. I’m making these decisions with, with, um, you know, partners or friends or business, you know, talking about the, the different, uh, things that you can have, um, with the human design. Like, we all have different ways of looking at things, but sometimes it’s being able to kind of recognize and access it, then clear it.
And a lot of a lot of the emotional clearing techniques are really good. But you’re missing out on the, um, recognition of what it is. And then the clearing of it, and then let’s do something to fill that void. So that’s, that’s how I created or why I created mind body spirit, at least because I wanted something comprehensive that would address those three areas so that people can truly heal and move past and start to create the life that they really want to have.
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Well, I’m forever grateful that you created mind body spirit release, because what’s so wild is that, you know, I don’t know if I told you how I even came to it, but I, you know, went through Lyme and mold. And I mean, who knows what else. If you go to enough people, you’ll get enough names and all the things. And, um, you know, I always was in this mode of like, what am I missing? Like I just didn’t understand what I was missing and why I always felt so stuck. And I had spent money on some of the most renowned treatments, right? Like, you know, and I think, I mean, I could unpack that for a while. Um, long story short, what I recognized was that it was, for me, it felt entirely emotional. Uh, and it felt like a lot, I think this realization I had as I started digging into some of the roots of disease for me was that it started much earlier than like dealing with Lyme. Like it really took me to, uh, having gone through an eating disorder for most of my childhood and teen years and what was going on there, which really was emotional, you know, like that was emotional. And then looking at some of the generational components, which I think people are just starting to understand now.
And I, I love that you brought that up. Cause I love, love, love, uh, incorporating with mind body spirit release, work, the metaphysical component for people and understanding the generational components. Because now, you know, I was, uh, I had read a book, it started before you and it gives all this research and studies of how they’ve shown how war and famine and these stressful events that happen generations before you, they have the research to show how it impacts you later in life. And it shows up, it’s physically expressed. And I feel like this is the missing link for 99 percent of people. And so, you know, once you understand that so much is emotional and these patterns that you’ve just always had, you’re like, oh my gosh, like this is the missing link.
And so, you know, when I found and discovered your work, which I think I had heard of it, maybe it was when I was, just had had my second son. I think it was starting to get on my radar. I just knew practitioners who were talking about mind body spirit release, and I had just started doing brain retraining work. And so I was being introduced into the nervous system, nervous health regulation world and which I love and, uh, but it kind of, you know, that has really, I think, beautifully taken off the last few years. Like people are starting to know about it, have heard about it. That’s not a foreign concept, but, uh, you know, I recognized, uh, I think around that time, like, oh my gosh, there’s this whole, it’s a really big emotional component.
And what’s so strange and maybe it’s different with having done your naturopathic program, but in nursing school, I remember one of the foundations for nursing education is looking at emotional and spiritual aspects of health. Uh, schooling is taken over by, you know, pharmaceutical companies and you spend four years with books that are funded and paid for by, you know, a certain conglomerate, you know?
So it’s funny, like I was thinking about that recently. I was like, nursing as a whole was founded upon the fact that there’s emotional and spiritual components to illness. And yet that’s totally forgotten once you actually are in nursing, it’s not like you’re tested on that later on. Or really. Look that you’re tested on what’s the medication you get for X, Y, Z, you know, like. And, um, it just helped me realize, you know, when you’re looking at patterns, you start to see when you work with people long enough, which I’ve, you know, started working as a nurse’s aid at 18 and, you know, was working, um, with heart patients and stroke patients. Like when you start working with people long enough, you start to see the patterns that are holding them back. And so you recognize like, okay, well, this is this big thing that’s holding you back. And so mind body spirit release has just been such an incredible way for me to support my family, to support friends, to support clients, just in what I feel like, is what will shift things for you.
And I know this has evolved quite a bit over the last few years and you’ve spoken at different conferences and it seems like people are starting to really be interested in this work and really accepting of it. I mean, what have you seen as far as that shift? Because I know you guys have been expanding quite a bit and you’re working on some different projects with this. So I’m sure that’s been really exciting to see people just grab a hold of it.
Yeah, it has. It has. And I love that story. I think that’s beautiful. I just have to say this, that you had enough, um, wisdom and, and, and space to sit back and be able to start recognizing those patterns because as a nurse. All the nurses that I know it is non stop. There’s not much time to be contemplative as a nurse and for you to be able to take that time to think through what you know, what you’re seeing and how it’s impacting people is just, uh, it’s, it’s so wonderful to hear. Because I just, I know the nurses that I know, it’s like burning the candle at both ends all the time and that’s what our world is.
We can’t create and grow unless we have time to sit back. And, and contemplate things and to see the patterns and see the beauty and see the, the things that need to be healed. And that’s missing so much in Western medicine, because in our world, right? It’s just go, go, go. Let’s always have something with our intention focused elsewhere, instead of inwards, um, to help kind of grow and move past those things. And so to be able to wake up and, and, you know, have some kind of a, I don’t know, download to be able to, to move outside of, of the busyness of life.
And I totally got sidetracked. You asked me a question and, oh, is it growing? You were asking about, um, mind body spirit release or how I’m seeing it change. People are definitely more open to it. Definitely. It was, um, it’s just even since, it’s 2000. Um, you know, I, the, the name of my clinic is Heights of Health because it’s in a neighborhood called the Heights and, um, in Houston, which is with, with the highest point in Houston, which is kind of funny cause it’s, you know, we’re pretty much at sea level.
Yeah. I was about to say, that doesn’t seem like a tall area, it’s like a 20 foot high hill.
Yeah, exactly. At most. At most.
Oh my gosh.
Um, but we, uh, people for, uh, the longest time would call me the witch in the heights. Because it was so unusual. I mean, they would say it like as a joke, but they would, you know, people would tell me stories about meeting other people at cocktail parties and they’d say, oh, yeah, I go to this, this witch in the heights. And people would say, oh, you go to Tracy Southwick, which was kind of a funny, funny thing because it was still and that was in the late, uh, you know, 2000s going into the early 2000 teens. Um, but now it’s like people, people don’t seem to have that kind of stigma or, you know, they’re not, they’re not afraid to tell other people that they are searching for kind of a holistic health alternative, which is, it’s a huge, huge shift. I love it.
And I think even since, you know, this whole, the whole COVID thing happened, I think it’s, it’s created, um, a lot more space for that. Because people, you know, we’re, we’re forced to look at it for other, for other options and maybe, maybe hopefully had some time to do some introspection. If you want to look at the positives, you know, positives that have come out of it.
Yeah, totally. You know, I was thinking when you said that the witch. Well, I think this is a topic that comes up a lot. Some of this is very foreign to them. It’s very foreign to them to look at emotions, look at the energy component. There’s unfortunately some words that I think can be very, for lack of a better word, triggering for people because they don’t understand it or they have associated it with being something bad. And so I’ve seen that with a lot of people that don’t really realize well in school. We were all taught physics based off of like the Newtonian, uh science, which is really not what we should have been learning at all. Which add that to the list of all the things I learned in school that have not been helpful. Uh, but we should have been learning more when it comes to quantum physics and the fact that everything is connected and we have so much good research on this.
And we know that everything is responding to everyone else because a lot of people will ask me, how is it possible that you’re able to do this virtually? How is it possible? Like, how is this not, um, you know, they don’t understand to, uh, maybe people to that feel like, does this conflict with their faith? And to what I respond, I mean, this is, I personally believe that we were created supernaturally and that God created us supernaturally and that we have giftings. And our bodies are incredible. But we aren’t unfortunately taught this, you know, we’ve, we, we are taught to fear our bodies. We’re taught that, you know, something’s wrong with our body.
And unfortunately, as I just mentioned, you know, kind of not even introduced to the fact that everything is energy in school and we’re actually taught the complete, you know, opposite when it comes to science. And so people have a lot of fear when it comes to sometimes this work and just understanding the energy component. So I, I’d love for you to just share with us any pearls you have when it comes to like, uh, kind of this perspective and understanding this, uh, the importance of this works really from a quantum perspective, just your own, your own thoughts.
So, um, absolutely. But in fact, the very first module that we teach in our first class is all about energy and how it, how it works to give people the language. This is one thing that as an academy, we try to set ourselves apart. We’re trying to create kind of what we would say the gold standard for energy work because so much energy work is um, thought of understandably is very woo woo, out there and can be scary or intimidating. Um, because you’re thinking, well, what energy are you using? You know, are you tapping into something or and and that’s not that’s not the case at all.
All we’re doing is tapping into quantum physics. We’re tapping into the way our body and our world was beautifully and, um, amazingly made one of the, one of the things that was a big aha moment for me was understanding first of all, that we are energy. So, uh, and people can kind of say that as a, uh, we are energy. We’re energetic beings. But if you look at at the atom, the atom is 99.999 percent energy and only 0.0001 percent matter. So, what would be easier to shift, the energy or the matter? Obviously, you’ve got all this amazing energy. It’s just that the energy is moving so slowly that it looks like solid matter.
But if you get down on a microscopic level, we’re made up of atoms that are made up of 99.9999 percent energy. So it makes more sense for us to go into that energetic realm to shift things. Um, and I think, you know, going back to the Newtonian physics that yeah, newtonian physics is mind and matter are separated. There is, there are these laws. And, you know, everything, like, it’s, it’s so, um, I don’t know, it’s, it’s so non spiritual to me. It’s, it’s, there’s so much more of a spiritual component, and I think we’ve all experienced that in our lives, right? We all experience the, um, the connection that we have with one another.
And, um, if you’ve read any of Rudolf Steiner’s, and I know I’m jumping around a little bit, but any of his works, he was a great psychologist back in…
I haven’t, I don’t think, but you know what I just found recently, Tracy, you’ll laugh. Okay. So when I went to, uh, Heights of Health in Houston and I was doing training there, I always have been tranced by people’s bookcases. I have to know what they’re reading. I’m like, what, what are you learning from? Tell me all the things. And I took pictures of like every bookshelf. Um, and I was going through my photos recently and I found it and I saved it into an album on my phone so that I can start writing stuff for the library. I probably saw something there that was from Rudolf Steiner. So now we’ll save it in the show notes. That’s amazing. So clearly we’re, we’re going to bookmark that, but keep going.
Okay. No, he, he’s a brilliant, um, I believe psychologist, but may, may have been psychiatrist. He started the Waldorf schools. So they’re all based on his…
that’s how I’ve heard that. Yes. Yes. Okay. We have a Waldorf where I live. So yeah, it’s pretty people know that name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
It’s, and he was really brilliant and he was all about bringing forth what was inside, right? The wisdom that was already innate, but he believed this goes back to you talking about the different senses. He believed that children were born with, I want to say 13 senses, right? I can’t remember them all, but what happens in our world is we quash those senses. We’re like, oh, no, no, no, you don’t see angels. No, no, that’s not possible because I don’t see them. Or no, you don’t feel, you can’t feel what that other person’s feeling. Um, one of, one of the senses he talks about is the, the sense of proximity.
So, and we’ve all experienced this and I, the only reason I’m going down this little hole is, is because we all know that sense of proximity where someone comes up behind you, you don’t hear them. You can feel them. You can feel their presence. That’s their energy field interacting with your energy field. So we all have that, or we all have that feeling when somebody walks into a room and, you know, it can go one way or the other, but say somebody walks in the room and you go, oh, my goodness, keep me away from that person. Like, you feel their energy or you’re drawn to that person. Like, when you met your husband, Lindsay, you probably were, you know, super drawn to him energetically.
And you’re like, I want to be near this person, I, why there’s something there’s a connection that we have. And that’s not just because we can’t see it. We can’t see love, but love exists. We all know it exists. So we can’t see all of these things, but we know that they exist, um, on some level, deep in our guts, we know that this is a reality. And so I think that, um, you know, once you kind of delve into quantum physics, it’s really interesting because it explains a lot of things. And I’m, I am by no means even close to, um, being a novice at being able to explain it because it’s just so mind blowing.
Um, how it is, but there is one going back to you talking about working on people remotely. There is a law in quantum physics calls the not a law, but the, I’m going to say it the property of non locality. Yes. Thank you. Property of non locality and essentially and I think this is beautiful because it shows how connected we are. Essentially once you have been in contact with someone, you’re forever in connection with them, so once you’ve had a connection with somebody, you’re forever bound with them. And the, and the reason that they are, the way that they proved this was that they would take, um, samples of people’s blood and they’d move, move it like across the room. And they do something to somebody that would elicit a response in their blood. And the sample of the blood would have the same immediate reaction to whatever that stimulus was. And then, they would move that sample further and further away, like miles and miles and hundreds of miles away, didn’t matter how far away the sample was. The part of that person would that, that blood sample would have the same immediate reaction to the stimulus, which is pretty cool.
I think one of these moments where it’s like crazy, amazing. That’s just like, it’s so cool because everything you said, it’s just once you realize that most of our body is energy. Um, and also I’m just like totally entranced by everything you said about the 13 senses, because that is something that has really been on my mind just as a parent in the past. Um, I would say two years ever since having my Atlas, and then just really working on some behavioral components with my son Harrison. And we were doing some detox work for him. I think I just really realized that, you know, how much is what I am seeing, about me and my interpretation of what I’m seeing and just kind of my own thoughts. And how much of it, you know, how much are we kind of not recognizing our child’s world and what they’re navigating or some of their gifts.
And it was really just kind of eyeopening to me and just like learning more with human design and, uh, just really understanding that I think how often are people kind of labelled, and I’m not trying to excuse mental illness in any way or kind of some strange patterns or anything. What I’m saying is how often though do we not recognize things going on in kids as just like beautiful giftings that they have? Or just like we, like you said, there’s all this programming and conditioning that like, okay, that’s wrong. So I love that you brought that up.
Yeah, it is. It is. He has some amazing writings and he just had seeing those gifts and, and children. And I, you know, it’s interesting. I, this just brought me to this listening to you talk about that. There’s a, excuse me, my dog just got let in. She just got back from the, um, dog sitter. We’ve been out of town. I love it. Can you hear her dogs?
We’ve got, I’ve got Atlas home with me today. So, you know, we’re all about the family. Yeah. We’re living as Matthew McConaughey would say, live it. Yeah. Keep, keep going.
Exactly. Exactly. Um, so I’m reading a, um, when I say reading, I have the book next to my bed, but I actually listening to it on, on Audible now, because I have such a commute and the book’s really heavy, like heavy. Um, it’s heavy weight wise, but it’s heavy information. Um, a book called, uh, The Fourth Turning Is Here. Have you heard of that?
No, but I love asking people who come on what they’re reading. So this looks exciting.
It’s not about health, at all. It’s not about health. It’s just about how we work in cycles, um, culturally, and we go through cycles and every fourth generation, there’s a turning and we’re at this turning now. So we’re at this point where we can go one direction or another. And of course, it’s amazing looking at these. Um, all the different patterns, and you’ll see it from generation to generation. It’s about every 80 to 100 years. There’s a turning, I believe. And and it made me think about that when you were talking about the generational things and things showing up in your kids,
right? Those those, I think that I think those are generational patterns that we keep bringing up. And I didn’t realize this until I started listening to this book, but it’s very, very common when I do generational clearing work with mind body spirit release for it to come up three generations back. So it’ll be a belief pattern, like, a limiting belief that because of what was going on culturally at that time was imprinted. And just like a miasm, it shows up three generations later for the next turning or for the next, you know, you’re in that same pattern, in that same loop. And we’re in a place right now that I think we can do so much healing so that we can, we can help everyone. We can help ourselves and our families and our, our communities to, to recognize those things and not go down those bad roads again and make bad decisions because we’re, we’re taught to think linearly.
Like, um, we keep getting better and better and better as a, as a, as a culture, which is so not true. I mean, we can see what’s going on in the world. No, no, this is not we have not evolved to, you know, maybe uh, we’ve evolved in terms of technology, but in terms of what we do as as humans to other humans, I don’t think that we have, um, in many ways evolved to where we can. But I think we’re at this kind of choice point right now, where we can start to look at addressing those patterns and moving past them and creating a better future for our kids, instead of being caught in this, we feel helpless. This, this feeling of helplessness.
I have like complete chills listening to you and I’ve like on the verge of tearing because I’ve like, oh my gosh, like you’re so spot on with everything you’re saying with just feeling like we’re at a turning point. Like so many people that I’ve talked to feel similarly with just that, you know, we’re, we have this awareness that we came here to really break generational patterns and cycles. It feels like, that’s why I feel like, you know, all the things that I went through and you know, going through nursing school, all these things led me to exactly to this and looking at those emotional and the metaphysical components. Because like, I feel like this right here and what you created with mind body spirit releases legacy work. Cause people, once people understand that you can also be creating imprints and like for, for generations to come, you can be shifting things for generations to come for your family. You’re like, oh my gosh, why would I not do this work? You know, like it’s, it’s just like, I can’t not do this work.
Yeah, it’s very actually, that’s a beautiful way to put it because it’s, it’s, it just makes you realize how incredibly important it is to do the work and to look in the dark corners and, and, you know, in, in the mirror. I mean, myself, I’m saying that to myself.
Totally. I get that.
Yeah. What? And that’s, that’s one of the beauties of being a mom, right? Is you have to look in the mirror. Yeah. You know, when you’re, when your kids are doing things, you go,
Oh, Oh yeah. The biggest, the biggest mirror possible is your kids. And you’re like, okay, now I wasn’t anticipating this, but it also makes me think like, I mean, just putting this out there. I mean, I never thought that I, I mean, I was told when I was younger that I wouldn’t have kids and it really just wasn’t on my radar. I was so career driven when I was younger, like that. It just wasn’t something that I was like, you know, I don’t know. I just was like, yeah, when I’m in my thirties and whatever, maybe when I’m older, you know, and I feel like, you know, now three kids later, I’m like, I can’t imagine, um, not having had them as my teachers. In my opinion, they are your greatest teachers and, um, have completely shifted who I am, who I am as a person.
And I actually had read this study and it’s been resonating with me so much. I’m sure you’ve seen it and it just talks about how, uh, even 27 years later, after your child was born, mom is still carrying cells of that baby within her body and influencing her brain. And, it was like, we are still carrying like our children with us 27 years later, we have the science and data to show that and, and just to show how it’s true. Like you completely change you, you know, you are carrying a different imprint. And so, um, anyway, it’s a little side tangent, but, um, to, to what you’re saying with the mirror work, you’re yeah. Like. Here’s your mirror and you better get into gear quickly. That’s what it’s like. You’re like, okay, I guess. Yeah. Um, especially as something that I always talk about my friends who have two kids, there’s something about that second child, man. It wakes you up fast. You’re like, okay, like, yeah, they’re, they come, they come out, like, they’re like a force.
Um, so, so true. That’s great. I love that study. I’ve never heard that. I had never heard that about 27 years later. I believe it. That’s when going back to that being connected, right. You’re so connected still to that. Um, you know, that, that being that grew up in you.. Yeah.
And I’m just going to wrap up with a few questions here, but, um, so, you know, speaking of this work, and especially with working with kids. Uh, I mean, typically would you work with mom really, if you’re working with a child, because they’re carrying their, the, the energies are so connected.
Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, it’s funny. We have these, um, you know, through the years, as you can imagine, we have a lot of autistic children that have kind of come through the clinic and, um, and, and the moms are the ones we end up doing most of the work. Not that we’re not helping the kids, but that healing of the mom shifts so much so much with those children. It’s it’s it’s really, really powerful. And as a mom, we, we put aside our needs so frequently for our children that we don’t realize that healing ourselves is healing them as well. And it’s just, and not only them, just like you said, it’s generations going forward, you know, you’re healing a lineage and going backwards. So healing yourself is also healing going backwards. It’s, it’s really beautiful and amazing. And it’s this, uh, it’s this, I think it’s a gift that, you know, we have. And I think that’s. Yeah. Part of the beauty of being human and also part of our, duty may sound like a strong word, but it’s, it’s a call for sure to, um, you know, to do that. And I think the world is such a, a distraction from that, right? I think the material world, the Newtonian world is such a distraction. And, and, you know, it is for me at times too, I’m like, oh, I’d really like to go, you know, on this vacation or have this thing or whatever. And, and all that stuff just doesn’t mean anything if you’re not, you know, looking inward and finding the space to, to work on yourself and your family.
Speaking to my soul. That was like a mic drop two minutes. Um, I love that so much. So I’d love to know Tracy, how can people connect with you further. Mind body spirit release Academy? Uh, what would be their next steps if they wanted to connect with this or even become a practitioner?
Okay, wonderful. Well, they, that’s easy www.mindbodyspiritrelease.com. So, um, and we actually have, if you’re interested just in learning some more, we have Amanda, who’s one, of the one of my amazing teachers, as you know, uh, her well. She has, has recorded a few podcasts that are in the Q and A section. If you just want to learn some more about it, there are several videos, um, certainly on our website, but there are three really good, really, really good podcast that she’s done interviews.
And one is about energy work from a, a astrophysicist to PhD. She used to work for NASA. Um, another, there are two from her that are just fascinating. I think I could listen to them over and over again. And then there’s one about Christianity or faith and mind body spirit release or faith and, um, uh, energy work in general, and it’s done by a pastor’s wife. So, if that’s the faith background that you come from and want to learn more about how this could work with your faith, that’s a beautiful, beautiful podcast that they did talking about that. So, and then we, you know, classes are posted on there and all kinds of stuff.
Yeah. I’ve seen both videos. And, um, the one that is through the NASA astrophysicist is like, so cool. Like it’s so like, I said it to a lot of people who asked me like, how does this work virtually? I’m like, let me tell you.
Via this NASA, NASA astrophysicist. And I mean, I tell them too, but I mean, it’s nice to have that.
Uh, yes. Yeah. The PhD. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Explain it.
The people who can explain it on like a whole other level. Cause to me, you know, it’s interesting. And, um, I’ll just say it’s funny how you kind of get led here. I feel like as a child, I always was very aware of energy, but I didn’t know that’s what it was. Like, you were talking about giftings, um, and senses. Like, I was always very aware of energy. I always could kind of see, like, even in my 20s, like, I could see like color showing up in people, like highlighting to me, like where something was like wrong. And I still like, you know, I can tap into it. Um, all this to say my, my point being just like, how incredible it is that you know, it’s, it’s interesting to see how, like, we kind of get introduced to this work or we start observing things and then we kind of come to this place.
And so, um, I’m so grateful for all the resources you have. I’m so grateful for you coming on. I know I went a bit longer than I usually do. I could talk to Tracy for hours. I just, she’s, she’s the best. And so, um, you know, I can’t wait for people to listen to this episode and thanks for sharing all the ways that people can connect with you and your work. You’re going to have to write a book, so I’m going to put that on your manifesting generator list.
Yes. It’s been on my list for a long time.
I knew it had to be. I was like. It’s probably already there. Um, yeah. So thanks so much, Tracy, for coming on. I can’t wait for people to listen to this and experience mind body spirit release. And I just appreciate you so much and that you have been such a crusader to bring this work to impact so many people.
Oh, thank you, Lindsay. I’m so honored to be on your show. I think you’re doing amazing work and I’m just so, so glad to know you. So grateful. So thank you.
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