Hi guys. This is Lindsay, your host for the Untethered with Lindsay Tuttle NP podcast, where we go deep on truly becoming untethered in your life and health and experiencing exponential freedom. We have the radical and uncensored conversations you have been craving and give you the tools for expansion and growth. I’m so glad that you are here and I can’t wait to connect with you.

Hey guys. I am so excited that you’re here today. I’m with my friend Ali. I cannot wait for you to meet her. She is like the coolest. I just, I can’t wait to share her bio here. So Ali is a certified breathwork facilitator, world renowned celebrity and intuitive stylist, sought after media personality, speaker and transformation expert. She helps take her clients from their breakdowns to their breakthroughs, embodying all that they are through their soul’s purpose, using her signature methodology of The Ali Method, which is, the awaken the light in you. Ali helps you shift from your lower vibrations to higher states of consciousness, through the breath and certain exercises, meditations, divine coaching.

She holds space and facilitates your shifting, your awareness and even your own healing, and she is waking up the world with breath work. Ali is also the founder of the app, Breathe and B, which takes you from being plugged into the matrix, to awakening and allowing you to be you fully and come home to yourself at a soul level. She also has the background of being an intuitive stylist, helping clients breathe through their closet, tap into the design of their soul and come home to themselves through the wardrobe of their dreams. And throughout her career Ali has styled countless well known celebrities.

Uh, the list that I have here is just amazing. I mean Lisa Vanderpump, Gretchen Ross, uh, Rossi, Jesse McCartney. Supported networks like Nickelodeon, Bravo, E. Has been featured as a lifestyle expert on local and worldwide news stations, red carpet events, and even starred in a Bravo show called Stripped that aired in 2017 to 2018. And Ali recently walked away from Hollywood at the height of her career to support conscious women and those on their spiritual journey that she has connected with most. Ali, I feel like what I probably will go look up this show later and watch an episode and then I’m so happy you’re here.

I’m so excited to be here. Oh my gosh. I will forewarn you. If you do that, you’ll get really deep with me and get really to know me because we are naked on that show.

Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, that’s kind of where you go.

Morning.

That that is wild. So I just it’s crazy that I know we’ve gotten to talk and know each other better over the last several months. And I guess we met too, I think we connected years ago on social media.

Yeah.

I think just because of everything maybe going on in 2020, I was trying to…

I started following you around that time. And I just loved what you were speaking about and what you were sharing and it was just my vibe and I was really going through my own awakening, man. It was leaving the Hollywood space and it was like really intense for me. So I was following accounts that just, I needed that like support in that safety, you know, and I loved what you were sharing. And I was like, oh, and I remember I messaged you back then too. And you were so sweet and you’re like, hey, thanks for joining my community. And we like stayed in touch, but like, didn’t like know talk all that often. It was just like, hello, how are you? And then fast forward to now, over these last months, we reconnected through like one of our passions with, um, Amare. So pretty cool.

Yeah, that has been so cool to see just how people, how we all get connected and just learning more about your story and what you’re so passionate about, which is so aligned with what I do. It’s, it’s funny that I feel like 2020 really brought us to this place, you know, where I definitely would have never thought that I’d be doing what I do now. And I’m sure you could say the same, you know, you definitely have done just such a wild turn. And one of the things I knew that I wanted to ask you is just even how did you really come to this space? How did breath work become something that you’re so passionate about?

Yeah, good question. So I think like for a lot of people in 2020, it was like your eyes got, you know wide open and the veil lifted and it was like, whoa, things are really not what they seem. It’s kind of crazy. And I feel like that was my big aha awakening moment, but it really started like back honestly, when I was on Stripped. Like, it’s funny to think back now and reflect, but the concept of that show is having everything taken away from you for 21 days. Now, and Ali’s like…

Oh, interesting.

Yeah. 21 days. They take everything away from you. Now, mind you, when I was said yes to this show, Lindsay, they told me it was going to be items. No one told me it was going to be my clothing. They just said, your stuff, your house, everything in your home. Like you’re just not going to have anything. Your phone, you know, all the things which already was like, terrifying to me. I’m not going on my phone. I’m not going on my computer. Like, you know, like, oh, 21 days, you’ll be fine. Okay. And you get 1 item back every single day.

So, in my mind, when I was going to start the show, I was like, oh, the 1st day and get my phone back and then I get my computer back, like, all the things, right? And then little did I know long story short, they took your clothes away. They tell us this literally, like, right before we’re about to air and shoot. Awesome. And, uh, I, my husband did it with me.

It seems very bravo. It seems very Bravo network.

Totally. Like, yeah, big surprise. Yeah. So it was like, oh, okay. My husband, God bless. And it was like, oh my God, like, you’re, you’re going to do this. And it was like, yeah, okay. So they take our clothes away. So obviously the first thing I get back is my dress because I’m losing my ever loving mind to being naked filming for 24 hours, you know, with these people and feeling so vulnerable.

And I feel like even that layer was such an awakening for me that came during the show because it made me recognize, like, I use so much of my glam, my glam, fashion, my looks, my makeup, all the things to hide from everything else in my world. Like to not allow myself to be vulnerable, to not allow myself to like, have these deep emotions.

It was like, no, Ali always is put together. She always looks so glam and fabulous. So like, this is how she looks. But then when I couldn’t have that and I didn’t have makeup and I didn’t have clothing, I didn’t have my armor, if you will, to like cover myself. I lost my freaking mind. Like, I’m actually really grateful that Bravo did not air a lot of my breakdowns that I had during filming.

Oh, wow.

You would have thought to be honest, um, long story short, Justin and I got pregnant, um, shortly after filming and because the show didn’t air right away because of, you know, production and everything, they actually asked to come back and film us pregnant and tell the story. And so then they peaced it from, I don’t want to give a show away, but they pieced it from the beginning of when we first lost all our stuff to then becoming pregnant at the end of this, like happy ending that came from our journey.

Hmm. Oh yeah. They put a good spin on it, but that really happened, which is amazing. So yeah. Wow. I mean, so. It’s just wild to me because it’s, that is such, I feel like a polar opposite world to then be drawn to the space of like conscious healing and breath work. And, um, you know, I’m curious, cause you said that was kind of when you started seeing those layers lift and what even intrigued you or brought you to connecting with breathwork. Like what was your first exposure to that? What got you like, okay, this is this is different. I need this.

Totally. Yeah, so fast forward. I was pregnant. I had my you know, I had my first daughter Um, I wanted to have a natural water birth, wound up, uh, 42 hours later, transferred into a hospital and had a pretty traumatic C section. And then I got into very heavy postpartum depression and anxiety. And from that journey, um, it was really like sink or swim, right? Like, what am I going to do here? I’m losing it. I was so dark. It was so heavy. I was trying to show up and be a brand new mom.

I was also at that time still trying to play this role of the celebrity stylist. So I was trying to show up for the people on set and, like, actually still, like, be in my job. But I mean, I’ll be like literally crying in a corner, trying to pump and dress this client. Like, I remember sitting in a corner one day and my client’s getting herself dressed and I’m telling her which shoes to wear. And on the other side, I’m turning around like hysterical crying. So they can’t see me because I was so alone. I felt like, oh my gosh, I don’t know who I am. I don’t know what’s happening. And it just got worse and worse. And the more I shoved it down and pretended that it wasn’t happening and that wasn’t affecting me the deeper my postpartum depression and anxiety got.

So it came to a place where I pretty much honestly just lost it. And I turned to my husband one night and I said, I feel like I’m mourning the death of myself. And he was like, whoa, what? And I was like, Justin, I feel like I’m wearing the death of myself. Like, who am I? Like, what is going on? Like, I don’t know who I am. My body doesn’t look like, like what I thought it was going to look like. Like I’m, I’m losing it. And from that moment on, it became really clear that I needed to like get help. So, um, I got a postpartum specialist, um, who, you know, started working with me.

She actually brought me into the meditation space. She was like, we need to really like figure out what’s going on because this is way more than just like your traumatic birth. Like there’s a lot more to unearth here. And I can just tell from like how how dark you are in this situation. And so I was like, okay. And so I was open to anything at that point, honestly, cause I was losing my mind and I didn’t even know who I was.

And I just, honestly, I remember some days thinking I could just disappear and it would just be over because I was so deep and dark in it. I just didn’t know what to do with myself. So she started working with me and coaching me and just facilitating a safe space. And we started working on meditation and I hated meditation.

I wasn’t a big fan when I first started.

Like, I think it’s important to say that because like now I love meditation, but I hated meditation. Like she would say, write in your journal Ali and tell me what you like about meditation. I would literally write every day, Lindsay, I hate meditation, it doesn’t work. That was what I wrote every single day. And she was like, Ali, nothing is going to change if that’s what you’re going to write down. And I was like, but it’s true. And she’s like, okay, but maybe like, I don’t like meditation, but maybe I felt a little bit of hope today, like something. So over time I started changing, you know, I still don’t like it. I don’t know if it’s working, but I heard the birds today or I got out of bed and I actually, you know, felt like brushing my teeth and washing my hair. And that’s a win. Or I didn’t curse my body when I got to bed and look in the mirror and say, oh, you’re so ugly. And why do you have those scars? Guilty, I was doing that, you know.

And so, you know, fast forward, then she started bringing in a little bit of breath work, but not a lot, just little bits of deep conscious breathing with the meditation is to help me further get past the mind, and I honestly don’t think I really received it then. I know my body was, but I was so stuck in my stubbornness of who I am, tau-, tau-, taurus moon. I was really stuck in, like, all that, you know, and so I was just like, I don’t really think it’s working, but I’ll keep doing it because you’re telling me to do it.

Fast forward, I finally came out of that darkness between meditation, doing some deep breathing, visualization and coaching. This is about a year and a half after having Amelia and then 2020 came. And we all know what happened in 2020. All my crap came back up, like everything I thought I had to work through and healed came right back up and then some, like, I felt like it was like, you know, piled on because I was pregnant with my 2nd daughter.

I was living in California at the time. So it was just fear porn as I like to call it everywhere. Like, it was just like. Fear, fear, fear, fear, fear. And I was pregnant. I was trying to just navigate being pregnant, wanting to have a VBAC, a vaginal birth after a C section. Everybody around me was like, you’ll be lucky if, you know, you can even like have your baby safely in the hospital. And it was like, oh my God, what? You know, like I was like, it was a lot, it was a lot, you know? And at that time, you know, I had gone even deeper in my healing journey where I was, you know, working with an acupuncturist and chiropractor. And I was like, doing all these things for my body and like really trying to help myself.

Everybody around me was like fearful. And I just lost it one night. Honestly, I was just got dummies. I was, I was crying, crying, I was praying. I was losing it. And I was like, I don’t know what to do. I don’t know what to do. I thought everything I did worked. Now nothing’s working. My meditation is not working anymore. Literally like I would sit down and go to do the things she taught me and it wouldn’t work. And I was like spinning out. I’m like, what do I do? And I started sharing, I’m pretty vulnerable at how I share online. And I started telling different people online, like what I was going through and call it an angel. Call it God, call it a sign. Somebody showed up and was like, hey, you need to try breath work. And I was like, ah, I’ve done a little bit about that. I don’t really know if it does anything. And she’s like, well, what have you done? I told her like, kind of what had happened. And she’s like, right, you got to like, do a session.

Like we got to like get deep and I was lost. So I was like, sure, I’ll do anything like. Sign me up. So I did a session remote because of COVID, you know, and she helped me get in so deep into my layers. I swear I went from, that’s why they break down to break through because I went from this, like, ready to lose my mind moment to, like, clarity. It was like, I can literally breathe again. Oh, my gosh. Like, I don’t have to be afraid of this. Like, it’s going to be okay. And so I started working with her and the more I did, the more I realized, like something is shifting. Like every time I think something is going to break me, I move through and then it’s gone and then I pull up the next layer and then I move through that layer and it was like, like, quantum leap, like, just go, go, go, go, go.

And next thing I knew here, I was at 42 weeks about to have Arlie and I went all the way to the end because I wanted to VBAC and I wanted to go without induction, without interventions, all the things. And my doctor that whole week had been driving me nuts, you know, he’s like, oh, no, you’re coming in and get induced. He signed me up for two inductions. I didn’t show up at the hospital.

Oh, wow. I love it.

I’m so, I can be very stubborn. I can also be a big advocate for myself. I was like, no.

I love that.

I love doing it. You know.

Because I mean, at the end of the day, you don’t have to show up.

You don’t right. And they love to tell you do, but you don’t, it’s your, it’s your choice. You hire them. And so I was like, I’m not coming. And so finally he left me alone. I was like, fine, we’ll go to the 42 weeks. I did my non stress test. She was all good. And I just kept breathing through. And every time like he would create a problem, I would literally like do deep breathing. And then I go talk to him about something and then it would shift. I would notice that too. Like once I could like regulate myself, then everyone else that was in that state of like chaos would then regulate around me.

I love that you’re pointing that out because that is something that I stress with the work that I do too and just with nervous system work is that once you actually do that work. And that’s why I feel like it’s pivotal that any child that’s going through a health issue that mom is doing the work too, because they’re sharing the same energy field. Everyone in your home is. And so when someone starts doing the work, it makes a difference for everyone. So I love that you were seeing that. So you must’ve had her right at 42 weeks. Is that what happened?

Yep, right at 42. Like, the next day he was gonna, he was like, we’re gonna induce whether you like it or not, because now we’re at 42 and like, I’ve let you go. And I was like, fine. And I remember that last walk I took around like my neighborhood with my husband that night and with my toddler. And I was like, please, let me just surrender and let her come because I don’t want to be induced. And thank God she went into labor in the middle of the night that night. And, you know, I was doing the deep breathing at home until we transferred to the hospital and where breathwork honestly really changed my life.

Like deeply was in Arlesburg because it was COVID. Everybody was trying to mask me, you know, everybody was flipping out in the room, bright lights, you know, like just losing their mind on me that I wouldn’t comply all the things. And I was like, leave me alone. I’m healthy. Let me just have my baby, you know, thank God my doctor was cool enough, but he’s like, she’s healthy. Leave her alone. Like mask her husband. And my husband played the game for me to be calm. And so anyways, you know, during that time, it was just full chaos.

And I was like, oh my gosh, how am I going to have a peaceful birth and a VBAC for that matter when everybody around me is just pure chaos. And I looked at my husband and I was like, I need you to like, lower the lights and you do like be my advocate and let me just like, get this rooms and let me regulate. Let me get into deep breathing. And so I did and the more I did, the more she progressed and the labor continued and I went from, like, stopping it, like being at a 6 or 7 to then all of a sudden I got to an 8 and then a 9 and it was like progress like, because I was deep, deep breathing and using the exercises.

So then I got to the time where it was time to push and I hadn’t really pushed because of my C section. So he was like, we’re going to practice push for a while. So I did. And then it was time. And I remember, like, all of a sudden my nervous system started getting like, really anxious again, because it’s like, oh, it’s time. Like, we’re there. You made it past the labor, but like next hurdle to go right? And I was like, okay. And I, I noticed I was clenching and I was just like, okay, I can do this. So I can do this. And as I was saying that she got stuck at the very, very end, like, I forget that like last whatever, like negative one or whatever, like right there.

Okay. Yeah.

And he was, and he was like, okay, you know, I’m just telling you right now, if she continues, like we may have to look at a different situation here. And I was like, no, no, no, I did not come this far to have this happen. Like this, this is not happening. And I told my husband, I was like. Please give me my, you know, my earbuds or whatever to put in my ears. I was like, I need to listen to one of my playlists and I put on my playlist. I asked him to give me a moment. Like, just just let me centre myself for a second please. Thank God. He walked out and gave me a minute and I just took a moment in the room and I like, anchored myself in. I remember, and I just like sat there and started doing the deep breathing, listening to the meditation, and telling myself, like, I can do this, just get deeper in the breath, get deeper in the body, open your body up to let the baby come.

It’s okay, you’re gonna be okay. And as I did that, I swear to this day, Lindsay, I don’t know how to explain, I know you’ll get this, but I do not know how to explain this experience. As I got so deep in the breath, I felt like I left my body. Like, I really felt like I left my body. I could see myself like being there, but I had left my body. I was seeing these beautiful swirls of like pink and purple, like heavenly colors, and it was so like, what is happening, but I’m just going to keep trusting and keep breathing. And then I heard him say, like, even though I was at a body, like, hey, it’s time to push, are you ready? And I guess I said, yes. And next thing I know, he’s like, all right, push.

And I just, I didn’t feel the pushing, but I did feel the pushing. I still don’t know how to explain it and I was in such an altered state of consciousness and there she was and she was screaming and she was on my chest. And then next thing I knew I felt myself come back to my body and I felt her on my chest and I was hysterical. And my husband looked at me and he was like crying and he couldn’t believe it and he goes, holy shit. He goes I feel like I watched you go from postpartum depression by their first daughter to postpartum euphoria like what is that? Like it was I was so on a high, I couldn’t even believe I did it. And then her and I were just there and it was like time stood still. Like I didn’t even know what was going on. So much so by the way, that I… let me paint a picture for your community that BLM was burning down the building across the way from my hospital…

Oh my gosh

And they were running in my room to tell me they’d have moved me to postpartum because they were locking down the hospital because they could smell the smoke. And I just had been no care in the world. It was like I did it. I’m here with my baby. It’s all good. I was on cloud nine. It did not matter.

Oh, wow. I mean, I was just like, like just beaming hearing you say that and tearing up a little bit because one, I would expect nothing less with a second child’s birth. I there’s something about the second child. They just come in like, I mean, they just, it’s a special being that… I feel like, you know, my second child. Um, he was the free birth and it was like he was like, he was on a mission with that. Like I mean the fastest labor. I mean it was just wild. And he’s a taurus moon as well. So you appreciate this but um, but yeah I was just thinking about that kind of altered state of consciousness that happens at the end that I would want like every single woman to experience if they could.

Yes. It’s such a, I didn’t, such sacred, right? Yes.

I didn’t experience that until my most recent pregnancy, ’cause I had done hypnobirthing.

Mm-Hmm.

And, um, I, which it doesn’t really include as many elements with, with breath work, but it does introduce being in this altered state and yes. Um, people always say to me, cause I have a video of my birth and they’re like, how were you so calm? Like how it’s like, and I’m like, dude, like this was completely different than any other experience that I could have had. I mean, I was completely lucid, completely with it and could have told you anything. I mean, it was just like a different state of being. So I love, like it was. For you, it feels like it was such a redemptive story in so many ways. And just like what an incredible experience and just like having that knowing of, okay, there’s something to this and this is where I’m being led to go next.

Exactly. And that’s exactly what it was. It was like from being a celebrity wardrobe stylist for so many years to had studied the transformation of what clothing can do for people and how confident they can be on, which is why I got involved in that work because I love helping people feel confident. And literally I would watch clients get, you know, booked on a job that they hadn’t had in 10 years. I would see them, you know, get the biggest red carpet, you know, mentioned.

I know we all need you for this too, Ali. I’m like, oh my gosh, like I recently went to like a color party and I’ve, I’m now like very intrigued by everything you’re talking about. But it’s so true.

And that confidence and what you feel, right? And, and so I always loved that world. It was more of, honestly, like the toxicity of Hollywood that made me walk away. But you know, when the breathwork showed up for me so profoundly in that birth, like you’re right, it changed me. It was like this soul transformation in that moment that I looked at my husband and I was like, I know what I want to do next and he was like, what? And I was like, I’m going to get certified in breathwork. And he’s like, what? Cause you know, he had known me for fashion and glam, my entire existence of pretty much being with him.

So it was like, what do you mean? And I was like, that’s what I’m doing next, you know? And that’s why I got certified because I’m like, if this was so soul changing for me and like literally made a difference in my birth and like, especially in such a chaotic time of the world, like, how do you not bring this to other people and say, hey, this is possible for you too.

Absolutely, which now brings me to something I usually like to ask in the beginning of the episode, but I feel like this is very fitting with just everything you’re sharing about your soul and what like drives you is what your human design is? Because I mean, it’s pretty cool. It makes so much sense for everything you’re saying.

Yeah. Totally. And I love that. I know. I love that. You asked that in the podcast form. I was like, that’s pretty smart.

I love knowing that information and I, I just had someone that I recorded an episode with on human design, but I love, love, love knowing that for what kind of drives people, like understanding more of how they operate within relationships and work and all of that. So, that’s pretty cool. It was no surprise to me that you have some man gen, but I’ll let you, I’ll let you go ahead.

Oh, totally. Yeah. I mean, yeah, manifesting generator, like six, two. I forget the exact details of my sacral and spleen. I know you have that in front of you so you can share more about it, but…

Yeah, sacral authority is for generators. Yeah. And then manifesting generators with a defined spleen, which was more details than I usually get.

So I wasn’t sure. I was like, well, I guess I’ll just give her it all written down in my notes. So I was like, I’ll just share it. But it’s funny when I hear it with the sacred authority to, like, I feel like that also can relate to the breath and the nervous system, right? Because when you hear about breath work, like I know there’s so much out there when it comes to breath work, but the, the root of what breath work is and the actual like definition is regulating your nervous system through different breathwork exercises. And I mean, there’s so much when it comes to that sacral that plays into that. So it makes sense.

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What does life feel like for you now compared to being in hollywood or just what that, what that’s like? I mean, I feel like that must be, and I don’t know, I don’t have the experience of being in it, but is that just like a very stressed nervous system dysregulated environment? What was your experience?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, yeah, complete. I mean, the woman you see today, nowhere near existed, you know, back then. I mean, I was always high strung, high stress, dysregulated. I probably only took shallow breaths. I don’t think I ever took a deep breath. And it was just toxic, to be honest, because I didn’t have boundaries. Um, I played victim all the time in all the situations when it came to my clients, which is easy to do in Hollywood because they all tell you what to do. They program you, you know, you’re expected to say this, you’re expected to look like this, expected to show up and do this. It’s very, this is what you’re going to do because this is what we do.

And I followed that and drank the Kool Aid for many years. Um, and so much so that it was like, I was a victim at that point where when everything was coming up with my trauma, so much of that came up too of like, you don’t even know who you are. Like you came in here knowing who you were and then you drank the Kool Aid so much that like you lost sight of who you were.

Like you had a big purpose and then everyone’s like, oh, don’t be loud. Oh, don’t do this. Oh, just people, please. Oh, and then it all went out the window, which I think is totally normal for a lot of us. We end up, you know, at one point in time doing that. And that’s why this healing journey for me and why I got into this conscious work is because I needed to heal.

I needed to know everything I had been through in order to heal it, in order to shift it. And now I see how much better my life is. My husband is my, you know, my kids are, I mean, even my husband, I look at even pictures of him when we were together in Hollywood and, you know, we were married and everything even before marriage and he was so much more overweight and he just didn’t look healthy. And I recognize like, he was holding so many layers of my trauma. Like, there was so much I hadn’t dealt with. My grandmother had passed in 2013. She was like my person. And so I had so much grief that I never dealt with. And I was just medicated and numbed out all the time. That’s another conversation. And so I had so much healing work to do that.

But when I started to do that and breathe, it all just started to shift. Like his layers started falling off and like, he literally started getting skinnier and healthier. And then he wanted to go on the wellness journey and he wanted to like, feel good and look good. And he was no longer like hiding himself, but like nothing had changed with him. It was me, you know, and I recognize that. And then it was like, same, like with my first daughter, like once I started working through the trauma, like, she wasn’t as like tense as a baby and she started to calm down. And like all the things that were making her like crazy as a baby were chilling out. And so it was just so profound to watch like with each conscious step, how much it ripples out.

And then it’s like, to me, I’m like, okay, well now me and this work, my big mission of like waking up the world with breath work, it’s like, I want each person to shift in one conscious breath at a time, because that’s how we shift the world and people can heal.

Preach. I’m over here. Like, where’s my gavel or like, whatever people use. I mean, I was just thinking, I mean, it resonated so much because of what we were saying earlier that it really is like when you’re doing that work, it really is a ripple effect for everybody around you and for your family and for your kids. I mean, the people I think about just, um, you know, uh, when somebody starts initiating that healing work, what a big shift happens and marriages and relationships.

And so, uh, it’s just such a cool testimony to the fact of starting to look into those layers and those deeper layers and being invested in. You know, I always think about this quote from Peter Levine. Um, as somebody who is so involved with somatic work and who talks about, uh, as much as trauma can be inherited, it can also be reversed. So I always see it as legacy work, you know, how are you reversing all the things that have led up to where you are now? And I truly believe that. And I, think you also have mentioned this to me with just, I believe this is part of our generation’s work of being here right now is all the generational wounds that have accumulated here to heal it.

Uh huh. Yeah. We’re here to heal it.

And that’s why many of us are going through tough health journeys, tough, you know, we’re unpacking many layers, right?

But things that are like, stored also in the DNA, right, from our ancestors, but also to that beauty, like, as we heal, right, and we bring up these layers, not only are we healing ourselves, but I really believe we’re healing the ancestry backward and we’re healing generations forward. So we’re doing massive work right now, which is why it’s so intense. Like, anyone who’s listening who’s like, oh my God, like my, my health, I’m losing my mind. Like, I’ve been there, like, I, like, I continue to have those waves where I’m like, oh, my gosh, another layer. Here we go. But it’s like, because there is so much to unpack, right?

There is so much trauma and so much that we’ve stored for so long. And society tells us to just shove it all down. But guess what? It doesn’t get shoved down. I try to explain to my clients, like your nervous system holds all of this, like almost like a computer and you just keep shoving junk and junk into it. Eventually it’s going to explode, right? Like your computer stops working. You got to delete files. It’s like, we’ve got to lift the layers out of it. We got to get it out. And how do we get it out? Well, we have to feel it in order to heal it.

Absolutely. I mean, the magic words, feel it to heal it. I mean, that is so, so true, like,

Yeah, it’s like, I feel like that was a huge part of my journey. And when I speak to back when you brought up Bravo, like. That’s what came up. Like, I realized when they were, you know, sitting doing these like crazy, you know, whatever they’re called confessionals with me and I was hysterical crying and I was bawling. And my husband was like, why are you a blubbering mess?

Like, they asked you one question, but it was because they were making me feel and I hadn’t felt in so many years because I shoved everything down. And I just did the Hollywood job and just showed up how it’s supposed to show up. And I never expressed any emotions. And it was like, all came out during that show. And that was honestly, it’s funny, but it’s where the work began. And now I understand because I believe everything happens for a reason. Now I understand why I got put on that show because long story short, like I was asked to do all these other fashion shows for years on Bravo that never panned out. And I was like, why this stupid show? Now I know why.

Oh my gosh. I’m just dying because I mean, we’re all going to look up the show, but besides that fact, I’m curious. I mean, are you, do you still it sounds like you still do some of the fashion work or what’s your involvement in that at this point?

Yeah. Yeah. So I, it’s funny to me in my mind. I was walking away forever. I was done. I burned it down to the ground. I was like, I’m out breath work only. That’s it. And of course, you know, things show up and it’s like, oh, no, just kidding. You’re not done. And so these people in my life that have come back in that I’m now doing the intuitive styling with, they have trauma, they have things are going on.

And it’s so wild because they don’t say that when they come to me, they come to me and they’re like, I need new wardrobe. I need this, but then it comes out. We’ll be going to their closet and they’re like getting anxious about an outfit. And I’m like, what’s, what’s going on? Talk to me. And they’re like, I don’t want to wear that. And I’m like, okay, with all like, if it’s cool and you feel safe, like, can you share with me why? And then they’ll start crying from a divorce. It’s from this, from that. And I’m like, okay, well, I don’t know if you know this, but I’m certified in breathwork. Would you mind if we do some breathing right now before we move more into your closet?

And most of my clients are open. So now I’m actually telling people up front, hey, I combine all the modalities because I actually think it’s really important that we regulate your nervous system. We get you conscious in your space. I call it your conscious closet and we get things conscious, before we even move into the wardrobe and the outer layers. Let’s, let’s start with the inner layers first because people hold trauma and stories and so much stuff in their closet. So, let’s get that cleared out first, and then let’s get into the wardrobe of your dreams because you’re not going to get to the wardrobe of your dreams until we get conscious and clear what’s happening.

Wow, that is so so cool. And I mean made me think so much about what comes up for people when there’s like a resistance to trying on, not even not even just clothes, but anything when it has to do with your look and your body image and all of that. And I love, love, love that you introduced that piece because I think it’s probably very, uh, not available or accessible within the fashion industry. And so that feels very like, as you were talking about how that door just didn’t completely close, just what came to mind to me was just the fact that it, it, you had to be the one to expose them to this other light, you know? To be the person who showed them and started introducing this other way of being. And so I love that you offer that, that nurturing way of connecting and, and helping people.

And so I was looking through too, I know you had mentioned to me a few resources that you really love for people to learn more about breath work. And one book that I was familiar with that I. I know you had mentioned to me was Breathe by James Nestor, which was something I read, I think a year ago, which is where, when you realize like nobody is breathing correctly. At least not definitely not in the US. But I am curious, uh, just some of the, the, uh, books you would recommend here are, resources for people who are brand spanking new to breathwork. They’re like, tell me what I need to know, but, but give it to me in a little dose. So what would you recommend?

Yeah, so I mean, definitely The Breath because I feel like that book was very simple and like it doesn’t overcomplicate, which I feel like a lot of times there’s a lot of breath work books out there that can get like super, super woo. And then people are like totally turned off or it’s like super, super intense and then it retraumatizes. Like I’m also trauma informed. That was something that was really important to me when I went through my breath work journey was like, no matter whether you work with me or you work with someone else, please make sure they’re trauma informed because if not, they can either cause trauma to your nervous system. Or they can re traumatize you in what you are going through just by opening you up.

So, like, really make sure you’re in a safe space. I will just say that. Um, you know, honestly, I’m trying to think what else have I read that I feel like I like to read just a lot of different spiritual books. So, like, I feel like it’s not always just about. I really love Dr. Joe Dispenza, um, this, The Supernatural, because it’s all about like how we really are, I believe divinely created. I know you feel the same way. It’s like, we have so much of that.

I love Joe. I call him daddy Joe. Yes. I love it. Yes.

Dr. Joe, daddy Joe. I love him. I mean, he was a huge piece to me understanding more. He does a lot with breath work and meditation and all that. And in a really beautiful, like light way. And I think it’s important to, like, understand that when you are going through this journey, that there are layers to this and that breath work can bring up those layers, but you can do it in a very safe way. You just have to make sure that you’re aware that, hey, some trauma may come up. Because this is part of the healing journey, right? Like, again, if we’re not feeling it, then we’re not healing it. So you have to allow yourself to walk into this journey. But if you’re not ready to like, do a session yet, then yeah, like read some books about becoming supernatural by Dr. Joe Dispenza, read The Breath, like inform yourself of kind of the way your body works.

Another book I love that really helped me during my postpartum depression and anxiety journey was The Body Keeps Score. That was a big eyeopener for me because I was also experiencing massive inflammation, Lindsay and cystic acne. And I had never had like, even like more than two specks of acne, like pretty much most of my life. So it was like, what is going on? And when I realized that I was actually causing the cystic acne by me speaking so horribly about my body and being so depressed and so anxious, and that it was literally manifesting onto me.

It wasn’t until I started doing, you know, the actual like the meditations, affirmations, visualizations and coaching and like deep breathing of releasing, like, no, you’re don’t think you’re ugly. No, you are beautiful. No, you are worthy that, like, my face started calming down. I went to, like, a million top Hollywood facialists, you know, that would work on my face and do this, that and the other thing. And I went to, like, you know, all kinds of, um, whatever their cold and hot therapies to compress on my stomach to kill the inflammation. I mean, like every modality you could imagine externally to fix what was going on and nothing was working from like the top people. And it was like, what is happening?

And that’s when that book, The Body Keeps Score really talks about like, your body knows you’re not like, your body’s not going to psych out. You’re not, your mind is not going to like, all of a sudden tell your body, hey, just get better. It doesn’t work that way. Like, no mind, body, soul. It all is aligned. It all has to sync up.

So if you’re saying one thing, the body’s receiving another, like, guess what? They’re not in harmony. So as soon as I recognized that, and I understood that from the book, the most, I started changing my affirmations. I started, you know, doing even deeper breathing. What I would say, like, you’re worthy and be like, like really believing and breathing that in, you know? Like you are beautiful and it sounds so simple, but at that time, like I freaking needed it, because I was drowning in like so many limiting beliefs and in so many blocks and darkness of who I was and like this death of who Ali thought she was and all this like grieving that was going on. That like, then once I started doing that, all of a sudden my body started being no longer inflamed. And then I could find different things like supplements and things to help support that but like the overall root and core was doing the internal work.

That’s when my body started shifting. That’s when the cystic acne just started going away. Like, everything started to come back to a harmonious place and then I could use other things to further support that journey, but it’s like you got to get inside. You got to get internal first before everything else is going to become part of the tools and the modalities to support what is happening.

Yeah, that is such a amazing book and I highly highly recommend it as well, especially with just the mind body spirit release, Uh work that I do. And just understanding how it all accumulates and how it holds within the body and the body starts holding patterns. It’s such, such a good book. So I’m so glad that you, you mentioned that.

So I’d love to know, Ali, and just wrapping up with this episode, just what are ways that people can continue to connect with you and how can people find, find you and find your,

This was such a fun conversation. Thank you so much for having me on. Um, yeah, so you can find me at www.instagram.com/alilevinedesign is my main, um, social media handle. I have my own podcast that Lindsay’s coming on called Awakening with Ali. Anywhere you listen to this podcast, you can find that podcast. I have my own app called Breathe and B just the word breathe. And then AND and the letter B. It’s all about, breathing and being in your being. And I have exercises on there and affirmations. And honestly, all the things that helped me go through my journey, um, to support anyone else, you know, going through anxiety, stress, sleep, pain, whatever it may be. Um, I have different exercises that I drop in there.

Um, I of course do my full moon events and new moon events, like breathwork circles around different things that are going on. We’re doing an event very soon together.

Yeah, yeah. I’m so excited about it and I wanted to just echo how amazing your app is and I just got to be able to utilize it. I’ve been utilizing different breathwork exercises from it and it’s been such a special way to just incorporate more nervous system regulating work throughout my day, especially I love to do that stuff in the evening. Especially when I’m getting ready for bed. And so it’s just been such a beautiful add on. I love your app. So I’m so excited about what we’re partnering together with, with just combining the breath work with mind body spirit release and, and helping elevate healing for everyone. And so really looking forward to these upcoming, um, events. And excited to put those together for you guys in the show notes, so you have access to that.

And Ali, did you wind up mentioning how people can find you on social? Did I get that?

Um, yeah, I think it’s www.instagram.com/alilevinedesign and then you can also, um, Breathe and B Ali Levine is like the breath work page. And then my website’s www.alilevine.com. But honestly, if you want to work with me, you know, you can jump in my LinkTree and book, you know, a session with me, intuitive styling session, a breath work session, or have a conversation with me and decide what you are needing and looking for. And I’ll help guide you through how I can support you.

I love it. Sounds so good. Thank you so much, Ali, for coming on. I loved getting to hear your story. You’re incredible birth experience with your daughter and just all the cool things that you’ve been up to. It’s just so interesting and inspiring just to get to hear how people get to the place where they are now and all the things that happened and the trajectory of getting there.

And I, I, it’s, it’s never lost on me just that process. And the transformation that happened. So I so appreciate you. I’m so glad that you were able to come on and I can’t wait for you guys to be able to listen in and connect with Ali.

Thank you so much. You guys for listening to the show. I’m so glad you’re here.

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