Hi guys, this is Lindsay, your host for the Untethered with Lindsay Tuttle NP podcast, where we go deep on truly becoming untethered in your life and health and experiencing exponential freedom. We have the radical and uncensored conversations you have been craving and give you the tools for expansion and growth. I’m so glad that you are here and I can’t wait to connect with you.

Hello! I am so excited for you to listen to this week’s episode. It’s actually so robust. We had so much fun with this one, that it’s split in two. So you get to hear today part one of things that me and my friend and expert of thyroid health, Hillary Ha, what we’re vibing with right now. You’re going to get to hear more of Hillary’s points this week and mine next week.

So just know when you’re listening to this, this is a two part episode. It was just so full of info. We decided to spread it out over two episode sessions, and I can’t wait for you to hear it. I also want to let you know that I am currently enrolling for Liberated Sisterhood. I could not be more excited about this. This is something that I have wanted to put together for close to a year and was just really waiting for what felt like the best timing and resonated with okay, yeah, this is this is where we’re going. This is the vision. And I can’t wait for you to experience it This is a small group container that is really geared towards alchemizing further health and wealth on a level that really is inspired community.

We’ll come together for two Zoom calls a month, where I will be coaching you with different tools and practices that you can use to heal your generational wealth blocks, develop wealth consciousness, help to calm inner dialogue in your body, in your brain, help to start stirring more healing tools within your arsenal, and also just help you feel so supported and held as you develop your own dreams and visions with what you are currently creating.

And so I can’t wait for women to experience this. And even the guest speakers that I’m bringing in for this are literally my favorite people in the world. And it’s going to be so profound for you to be able to heal your relationship that much further with receiving and nourishment and pleasure and fun. And, oh, it’s just like, it’s just something it’s, it’s, it’s happening. I, you know, my, my favorite thing to say is let’s make healing fun again. And that’s what I’m really excited about with the Liberated Sisterhood group. And so if you have not yet taken advantage of that, make sure to get enrolled.

That group will start on April 15th and it is just a limited time. Membership is only going to be going through December 15th. And so it’s for eight months and will be something that you can be looking forward to for years to come with all the content that you’ll have available to you. So can’t wait to see you over there. And I’m so excited for you to enjoy part one of things that we’re vibing with right now.

All right, friends. I am so excited to share this episode today. Oh my gosh, so fun. I literally love this guest so much. I really wanted to make it a priority this season that my guests were people that I’m just a mega fans of in my life and also just people that I would seek out to have a cup of coffee with regularly do life with them. And that really influenced a lot of my decisions for this season. And just these really Untethered conversations we have people who are doing the work. And so I’m so excited to introduce you to my friend, Hillary, who you are absolutely going to love.

Hillary is a holistic health mentor and mom of five, specializing in helping women heal from Hashimoto’s and adrenal fatigue. After healing her own chronic illness, hillary has made it her mission to empower other women to heal themselves. A Los Angeles native, she and her family are learning to homestead on their ranch in Austin, Texas. Hillary loves writing, running, jamming to inappropriate music while in the car alone and finding the best coffee shops in town. Automatically.

Welcome to Untethered Hillary. You have the coolest story.

Hillary:

Thank you so much.

Lindsay:

And just people from California are better. We’ve, we’ve talked about this. I just, maybe not always, but I feel like we’ve said, um, you know, and I think of some of my like favorite people that I love to do have conversation with. So many of them are from Southern California, like, and they’ve moved out. They’re now relocated either where I live in Idaho or Texas or yeah, I’m so excited to have you on. Welcome, welcome.

Hillary:

Thank you so much. What a sweet intro. I so appreciate it. And right back at you, babe. Love you to pieces and always would love to have a coffee with you. And yeah, totally debatable about being from California. It really depends on who you ask. But I think we, yeah, we tend to be, I think pretty laid back. People who like to…

Lindsay:

Laid back. I think that, yeah, hit the nail on the head. I really appreciate laid back people. Yeah. Having grown up in the Northeast, so yeah. It’s like the opposite. Opposite magnetic energies there.

Hillary:

Yeah. Just I think I, the people I love most from Southern California are really down to earth, and I think that’s something that I, I don’t know if it’s the beach or just the energy there. I don’t know what it is, but yeah, I hear you. I hear you on that. The ones that are all still there. I don’t know. I can’t speak for, but Lindsay

Lindsay:

We’re trying to get them out. So Hillary, I’d love to start out each show, just finding out your human design, which we talk about quite a bit. It’s just such a fun topic to dive into. So I’d love to know your human design.

Hillary:

Yeah, well, I’m a manifesting generator, and I know you are as well, so yeah, I’m just like a really multi passionate person. I love to, like, I’ll get an idea, or not even an idea, but like a goal, I should say, more, like, I’ll think really hard and make a lot of internal kind of decisions before I do something. But then once I am ready to do it, I just go all the way. But then once I feel like that phase is done, I’ll move on to something else.

Lindsay:

You’re so right. I was reading something today for man gens and it was just talking about, you know, again, exactly what you’re saying. And just when you realize it doesn’t need to be perfect, which I think is definitely something we tend to struggle with. We’re so, you know, we care about the intentionality and we want to really do things so well. And so our, our essence really is that we are so multi passionate and we don’t like to just be kind of put in a box. And so, yes, I love that about you. And then with your sun, moon and rising, what is that?

Hillary:

So my sun sign is Libra, which I fully resonate with because I definitely am all about balance and fairness and loyalty and, you know, I, I like to stand up for what’s mine, what I feel is right and that sort of thing. I love people. So Libras are known to be very social. I would say that’s definitely me. My moon sign is Pisces, which actually took me a really long time to connect with. I didn’t feel like I really understood my Pisces nature. Now I’m in my forties. I feel like I’ve completely shifted on that and I totally get it. I totally, totally get it. The emotional, watery, internal kind of dialogue is absolutely Pisces vibes for sure. And then my rising sign’s also Libra. So.

Lindsay:

Oh yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Hillary:

So I’m a double Libra, which definitely feel that through and through. I mean, it’s, it feels, it’s, totally right on target for me. So, and I love being Libra because I feel like it’s like everywhere I go, I meet people and we chat and we have a good time. And then I move on to the next thing, like a little, you know, little butterfly. But I’m definitely also can be, uh, I like to say I’m an extroverted introvert. I love to be social. I love to connect with people, but then I absolutely need to retreat. I need to go back home. I need to be alone. You know, I absolutely, yeah, thrive on that alone time just as much, if not more than that extroverted energy, so.

Lindsay:

I totally get that. We both have the Pisces moon and I’m a double Aquarius. So I feel like Pisces actually, that kind of rounds me out. It kind of like made sense. It’s just, and like you said, if you have to like embrace it at some point, and I’m grateful because, you know, I think it just kind of, yeah, it brings a different element and, um, allows for just a, a grounding. Yeah. So, yep. I love that. I always say just, you know, I love being around Libras and Leos and Virgos, which are like my favorite, which is they’re, they’re social and so fun. So that said, me and Hilary, really, we’re excited about this topic today.

It’s just, this is all just like fun, what’s resonating, what we’re taking away right now with our own health journeys. And I’m going to let you share just a little bit about your own health journey to help, just because I think it’s just so valuable to share your insight and, you know, your experience. But we wanted to be able to share today just things in the whole health world, in our, our, our sphere, what we’re seeing, what’s not resonating, but also what is, just kind of having just been around the block a little, little while with our health journeys and seeing things evolve and change and evolving and changing ourselves.

And so we wanted to kind of just bring some thoughts and, and experience to like, what, what we’re noticing, what is, um, like I said, resonating what we’re growing in and share that as two people that, you know, offer mentorship to women, but are still on the journey themselves. I always like to say, like the difference, it really is, comes down to like experience and how, and practice, like how much, you know, somebody who’s like mentoring someone else, it could be just more practice and time, you know.

So with that, I’d love to know if you could just share a little bit of your health journey, where, where that’s taken you and where you are now in a, in a, a concise, a concise tale, you could, you could tell.

Hillary:

Yeah, I don’t think. Yeah. Anyone’s healing journey from chronic illness ever feels like a concise tale, but, but absolutely. Okay. So when I was in my early twenties, I actually just had my first baby. I was 22 when I first had her. And in the first couple of years after having her, I just had all of these really wild symptoms. And I was really the only one I knew in my circles who had a baby. So when I looked around my peers, everyone was like, oh well, that’s just, you had a baby. And you know, the, the way that society kind of treats that, or at least it, at that time was like, your life is never going to be the same. Your life is over. You’re, you’re going to be tired for the rest of your life. You know, all of these like negative things.

So it was a lot of that. It was like, oh, you’re really tired because you had a baby. But I was, I was not just tired. I mean, I had chronic fatigue. I remember being on the couch till like three o’clock in the afternoon some days, just like cannot get up, just so exhausted. And then I started having anxiety. I had a panic attack that I ended up going to the hospital for because I thought I was having a stroke, like just some really crazy symptoms that were so unlike me and I really wasn’t getting any help or support. I saw multiple doctors. I was finishing college at the time.

So I went to the college practitioner and she really actually made me feel bad about myself. Like there’s, you know, really like, oh, you must just be stressed out. It’s, it’s nothing here. So, you know, here’s some medication. And then I ended up having a miscarriage and it wasn’t until after that. So this went on for a couple of years where I just felt so out of my body, just so sick. So not well. And just the chronic fatigue, weight gain that I couldn’t seem to lose, brain fog. Like I just felt like a shell of myself. And I was also, you know, raising my daughter at the time and, and yes, life was stressful. I was working multiple jobs and I was double majoring and finishing college and all these things.

But those, everyone around me that I was looking to for help was saying, oh, it’s just those things. It’s just, you’re just a mom now. Oh, you’re, you’re working and you’re going to school. And so finally I got a doctor that had the wherewithal to check my thyroid. And honestly, at the time, I didn’t, I wasn’t aware of thyroid function. I didn’t really know what the role of the thyroid was in the body, let alone what Hashimoto’s was or thyroid disease, anything like that. So after like three years of this, I was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s and when I was diagnosed, I was told you will be on medication for the rest of your life. You will have this for the rest of your life. There is nothing that you can do about it. And it will only get worse from here, which was devastating as a young early twenties mom who was trying to, you know, barely get by and, and someone who had been relatively healthy my whole life. I mean, I just, it was a complete shock.

And so cut to 16 years later. And I reversed the Hashimoto’s. I no longer have it. So it’s been four years of no Hashimoto’s antibodies. I don’t associate with it anymore. I don’t, it’s just not even something I, even think of as part of me at all. And obviously that was a whole journey in that time. But I would say the biggest thing for me that really shifted was I came across the work of Dr. Isabella Wentz, who’s one of my absolute favorites in the health and wellness world in general, but specifically for thyroid and adrenal dysfunction. And her work is really what gave me hope that I could heal. No one had ever told me you can heal from this.

And now I’m so grateful because now everywhere online and out in the world, people are talking about healing chronic illness. So it’s something that I think is very, very important. Available information to people to know that you actually can heal from chronic illness from autoimmune disease that it’s a lie to say that your body is incapable of healing. But at that time, I mean, we’re talking about like the early 2000s. It’s like that was not at all out there. At least I, not in my sphere. And so once I came across Isabella Wentz’s work, she not only empowers her community to feel like they absolutely can heal and to know that they can, but she also gives the steps on how to do it. And I just found that to be so profound. It completely changed my life.

And it’s something that I have really wanted to turn around and share with other women. After all of that, I had my fifth baby. And when he was one, I was hospitalized twice in 2020, the year of like, I don’t know, the year, everything went crazy. And at that point I had really felt like I was super healthy. And so this again came as a complete shock to me, but I was hospitalized twice. And what it came down to was adrenal dysfunction, adrenal fatigue. Um, which, you know, looking back, it’s like five kids in the middle of a pandemic and all these things had mold in the house. There’s all kinds of things that led to that.

But, you know, at the time it was a huge shock to be hospitalized not once but twice and really feel like I had no answers. And honestly, both times I left the hospital with zero answers. I mean, all the tests, all the things and no answers. So I had to then go on a self discovery journey again. I’ve been able to heal from that or we’re always healing right. So still healing from that, but absolutely again, feel like this is a topic that women, particularly, I like to say, particularly moms, and it’s not to, to, you know, put other people in a corner. It’s just that as mothers, I think

that we just wear so many hats and we just take on so much. And there’s such a huge, huge emotional component to illness.

And I think as moms, we also have just so much more in that emotional space as well, because we’re caring for these, these humans that mean everything in the world to us. And so that’s kind of where I really just like to focus is helping women, but particularly moms to recognize you know, what even adrenal dysfunction looks like and then how to, how to take steps to reverse it because it really can be so detrimental. You can end up in the hospital like I did, and I certainly don’t want that for anybody else. So anyway, that’s, that’s a little bit about my story. I’m happy and healthy now. I feel like it’s like the, what is, what is that term? The, the way of the wounded, the wounded, I forget the term, but it’s like the wounded healer, you know, it’s like it, it took me the, these experiences were so difficult, but they took me to a place of really wanting to actually help other women heal. And so that I’m grateful for, I would not, not go back at all and change a thing.

Lindsay:

Yeah, I love that you highlighted just kind of all the different layers there because I think there’s kind of this notion sometimes that like you just arrive and you’re healed and like you said, like when you were postpartum after your most recent year, you’re, you’re five year old now, but you dealt with that issue that you wound up being in the hospital and it kind of came as quite a shock. Now you can recognize now all these things that played into it. I love just the wisdom of that in the sense that I think many people don’t realize that symptoms are actually a late sign of something going on. So all these patterns build up and lifestyle and the stress, which you mentioned, there were so many stressors at the time that it’s like, bam, you know. And it can take us by surprise.

And I think that we get so much messaging and all these inputs. And so it can be hard to steer back inward, but that’s been a huge part of your journey is to come back inward and do that deeper work. And it’s all been in layers and a process. You know, I like to think of it. This is something I was just reading this morning. Again, it was for Manifesting Generators, but I think it applies for everybody. And that is just thinking of your, if your life were a movie, right? It’s all these chapters and yeah, it’s, it’s almost like a hero story. You come out of it. You, you learn, you take those lessons in wisdom, you break out of the shell, you keep going.

Hillary:

Yes, absolutely. So true. The hero story. I always resonate with that whenever that comes across because it’s just, t really is. It’s a journey. I mean, and it is, when you look back, you’re able to see all of the pieces of it and why it happened. And, you know, it’s a huge blessing truly, because it takes you back, I think, home to yourself, you know, when you, when you go through, yeah, when you go through like something, so for lack of a better word, traumatic. And I just say that because it’s like, it takes you, it, it takes you out of where you are and takes you to a different place, which can be very traumatic. And then you find your way back and you find your way back, even in my experience, better than ever, right?

I’m more in touch with my body than I ever was. I trust my body more than I ever have. I feel more wise and in tune and intuitive than I ever have when it comes to, you know, anything, mind, body, spirit, you know, I just feel like it’s such a gift. And unfortunately, or fortunately, I don’t know, you have to go through these things in order to get to that place. It’s not something that you just kind of walk into. Absolutely. So many layers. And I think too, one of the important things is when I look back, there’s so much that I, I really took my body for granted. I felt like, okay, I know I got it. I got this. I can do it. I got this. I got this. You know, I’ve got five kids. I’m working. I’m running a business. I’m doing all the things. My husband was worked really long hours and I was kind of the sole person there a lot of the time. And it’s just like, no, I got it. I got it. I got it.

And we, we really tell ourselves like, it’s all, we can do everything. We can do it all. And the truth is, is like, we’re so much more powerful when we actually pay closer attention to nurturing ourselves and say no to more, you know, have firmer boundaries, you know. Create more balance in our lives and, and, you know, give ourselves more attention. But I think it is truly the way that we’ve all kind of, the society has kind of brought this idea that like, we just, just keep going, just keep going. Just keep going. And then one day you wake up and you’re like, oh, today I’m going to the hospital. Like what?

Lindsay:

Yeah, you’re speaking to my soul. It’s been on my mind quite a bit. As you know, I’ve just been kind of like entering an era of just slowing down a bit, but not in a bad way. It’s just refining. And I like to think of it as becoming, you know, I’m just kind of becoming the things that I’ve always wanted, but it’s, it’s hard because there is so much conditioning and so much, I think, we allow conditional expectations to become our inward expectations. And then that becomes this like cycle and it’s like when you actually step out of that which I know we talk a lot about like matrix and stuff like that, when you step out of this like programming and conditioning and you allow yourself to be nourished and supported it means that you are you are stepping away from the system and it’s, it’s kind of it can feel like new territory.

So I just love your wisdom and guidance with that because it’s something that I think more women need and I love that your heart is for for moms because I think that again, it’s just a very I was thinking about it just this past week of just really everything I see online when it comes to like nervous system regulation and all this work. And granted it’s through my lens so I mean I can audit this. But mainly what I see is all from people that don’t have kids and I do think that that is you know we’re not trying to make things black or white here but it just adds a different dynamic and it adds a different lens where it’s just, yeah, different hats, different energies that are being taken up, different experiences.

And so I think it’s so much, so much more needed for women that are moms and in that stage of life to be sharing their wisdom. Because I think that for me, it feels very nurturing to get that because there’s just a level of understanding.

Hillary:

Yeah. And permission, right?

Lindsay:

You know, it comes down to like your village, you know, having your village and people that are willing to Kind of, you know, pass you the cup of water, like give you the blanket.

Hillary:

Yeah, absolutely. Totally agree. I mean, it really is those, those people that helped me along the way to make those shifts, right? Like if it wasn’t for someone saying you can heal, this is how you’re going to do it. Or, you know, after the experiences I had, just having being surrounded this time around with so much more wisdom and so much more support than that first time around. And having people say, no, it’s your, you, you have full permission to slow down. You have full permission to say, no, you have full permission to take these things off of your plate. And I think, again, it’s that conditioning. It’s like, we tell ourselves that we can’t, we can’t cut this out. We can’t cut that out. We can’t stop. You know, we have to make dinner. We have to do this.

And it’s like, well, you, you can. You can. You can change those things. You just, it’s, it’s a matter of being willing to make the changes really, you know, and to relinquish the control because that’s another thing that, you know, I think we all, especially moms, we, we do so much so we have control over so much. It’s about really being willing and able to step away from that. And I know you and I have talked about it too, about there being, uh, almost an addiction to that as well. There’s an addiction to, I think, the busy, busy, busy, the go, go, go, you know, it’s just, it’s ingrained.

And so being able to pull away. And like you said, step outside of that system. And then again, come back home to ourselves and be in the flow and really nurture ourselves. And truthfully, now that I’ve experienced that, I wouldn’t, I would never want to go back to the hustle and flow. It’s like when you, when you step away from something toxic and you realize, okay, that’s not the thing.

Lindsay:

Yeah, you’re right. There’s an aspect, I think, of grieving that too. Like that part of you that kind of found, you know, I think we’ve talked about too, just finding validation through that. And then you’re grieving that part of you because you realize, so. Yeah, that’s like, yeah, we’ll need a part two. I’m gonna wind up probably splitting this episode in two parts, but anyway, we’ll, we’ll have that topic next.

But I know a main thing that we wanted to talk about today, and I think this is just such a great segue with what we’ve been talking about right now, and just kind of bringing that into the picture is, um, things that we’re noticing happening in the health world and what we’re like, hmm, you know. I don’t know if this is, you know, really adding up? And just things that we have learned from our experiences, you know, kind of don’t kind of nurture that healing process.

And so we had a couple ideas that we wanted to go back and forth on and, and that said, you know, everything with us is very much not polarizing, you know, take what resonates, leave the rest. I think that’s the beauty of having these discussions and, and also with people that, you know, I want to be able to sit at a table with people and have these discussions. And have different opinions or different viewpoints because I only have mine, you know. So I know Hillary, this part of this will be a little bit entertaining because we were laughing talking about this and just all the crazy things that we see online these days with health. But I think it comes down to, and you already mentioned this, just really getting to hone in on your intuition and coming back to yourself and what feels good.

And also knowing that you can change your mind and giving yourself that permission, uh, which we’ve had to do multiple times. And so I love for you to start us off with just things that you’re seeing that you’re like, hmm, maybe not. And, or from your own experience, you’re, you’re thinking like, no, we’re laughing at it. I’ve got my coffee. Go ahead.

Hillary:

Okay. So I’ll start with probably one of the funnier ones first, or I don’t know if funny is the right word. I don’t know what the word is for this. I, I’m having a hard time really grasping it, but I’m seeing a lot lately about using your menstrual blood for different things. And so I’ve seen, you know, make a face mask with it. I’ve seen, so the more recent one that I saw that really just kind of pushed me over. I mean, the face mask for me, it’s a hard no. I don’t, I just don’t, I just don’t feel the need. I mean, there’s a million face masks out there. There’s so many things you can put on your face. I don’t feel like I need to have it be my menstrual blood.

But then I saw, like, then I saw a live on Instagram where this practitioner was talking about swishing. It’s so absurd to me that I just, it’s so funny, but swishing with it because it has stem cells. And so if you were to have any sort of oral infection or any kind of oral, you know, imbalance that swishing with your menstrual blood could be really helpful. And I just, I mean, I just almost threw up in my mouth a little bit because that, it’s that’s that’s where it’s too far for me. I mean, and you know what I’m open minded. It’s like if I did eat my placenta. Okay, so not really, like I thought that that was really gross, too. So let me, let me say this like who knows I could change my mind but after my, my fourth baby, or actually when I was pregnant with my fourth baby, I became really good friends with someone who is a placenta encapsulation specialist.

And so she said that she would actually process my placenta. Now it was capsule. So I think that’s where for me, I was like, okay, I, you know, I take beef liver. What’s the difference? Right. So I would never have sought it out. I definitely thought it was a little bit weird, but she said the benefits were so great. So I tried it and it was, it was amazing. I had such a great postpartum and I actually really looked forward to that with my fifth baby. I looked forward to those postpartum days with the placenta capsules because it just gave me so much energy. But that being said, it just, it was sort of like, okay, it’s the capsule. I can swallow it. It’s no big deal. Different than like swishing your menstrual blood around, like collecting it and then like, okay. And then like swishing with it. I don’t know. It’s, it’s a hard no for me.

Lindsay:

And so she said that she would actually process my placenta. Now it was capsule. So I think that’s where for me, I was like, okay, I, you know, I take beef liver. What’s the difference? Right. So I would never have sought it out. I definitely thought it was a little bit weird, but she said the benefits were so great. So I tried it and it was, it was amazing. I had such a great postpartum and I actually really looked forward to that with my fifth baby. I looked forward to those postpartum days with the placenta capsules because it just gave me so much energy. But that being said, it just, it was sort of like, okay, it’s the capsule. I can swallow it. It’s no big deal. Different than like swishing your menstrual blood around, like collecting it and then like, okay. And then like swishing with it. I don’t know. It’s, it’s a hard no for me.

Yeah, I wound up doing placenta encapsulation too. And that placenta smoothie, the first like thing that you have, which is a little, looking back, I think, you know, I was so out of it and you could have done anything or told me anything. And I was just like, so tired and depleted that I don’t even know what happened. But, Yeah, it’s a hard pass for me. I don’t you know, it’s so funny because I started like coconut oil swishing again in the last week. I really just got back into it. I’m loving it. That seems like a great. Yeah, that works just right.

So I’m not sure… it is very interesting with the menstrual blood because I really do appreciate that you know, there’s been a lot of conversations around just allowing for flow and not using like even not using cups and I mean, it’s whatever people want to do. I will say that I was dealing with a lot of like pelvic discomfort after this last birth and I found that I really couldn’t even use a cup comfortably anymore and I was really trying to just allow for flow. And I just got the thicker underwear and like even clean tampons felt uncomfortable to me. I don’t even know now if that would be the case, but it’s interesting because my first initial thought is to not take that blood and and use it for things.

You know what I mean? The body is excreting it, and you’re excreting emotions, you’re excreting waste. I mean, we’ve talked about urine therapy too, which is just like a bag of tricks. But, um, it’s, yeah, it’s just my initial thought is to let that be something that is released. It’s not something that I would then consume or take back in. It’s it. Yes. Same thought. And I, there might be somebody who can, can give us some feedback on that, who listens in, but I can understand that first one. So yeah.

Hillary:

Yeah. And, and also too, I mean, they, it’s called shedding, like it’s shedding, it’s the shedding of the lining of the uterus. Right. So. Exactly what you said. I feel like it’s you’re shedding something. So let it let it be shed. But again, you know, I mean, if someone had told me when I had my first baby that I would be home birthing in the future, I would have just laughed in their face. If they told me I would be consuming my placenta, I would have been like, you’re absolutely crazy. So super open minded and you know, the placenta encapsulation or just the smoothies. I mean, it does have really amazing benefits and animals eat their placentas after as well. So it’s like, there is, there’s something there, right? But I was just ignorant to it in the beginning and didn’t know. So I fully accept that I could be totally ignorant to the benefits of this, you know, menstrual blood usage, but it’s just not something that I fully resonate with at all.

So another one that I was thinking about was, a lot more mainstream. So, I mean, many people have seen, may have never even heard of the menstrual blood, but this one, I think everyone’s heard of at this point. And that is the cold plunging and it’s not to say that I don’t think cold plunging is beneficial. I do. I really do. It’s just that it’s become such a trend. And I think that in and of itself, it’s fine, but I think that there’s a lot of things that are nuanced about it that really. They matter. There’s, there’s, there’s elements of it that really matter to the individual. And I’m not sure that I see people taking a lot of the stuff into consideration.

So, because I am so passionate about the adrenal function and, you know, cortisol regulation, and just really making sure that your, especially as a woman, that your hormones are balanced, doing a cold plunge can be an extreme shock to your system. I mean, that is what it is. That’s how it works. And so, for someone who has adrenal dysfunction, which many people don’t know that they have adrenal dysfunction. It’s another huge part of it. I mean, I didn’t know. I had no idea until I landed in the hospital. So, for people to just willy nilly be jumping in these, you know, ice cold baths and, staying for too long. That’s the other thing is I had a holistic, she’s a doctor, she’s like a brain doctor. I can’t remember her exact title, but she works at our local wellness center. And she was telling me how with cold punging it’s maximum two minutes. Do not ever, ever go over two minutes. She was saying, once you get past two minutes, it starts to affect your heart, your organs, your brain. Like it’s no bueno.

And so I just feel like, okay. This is something that people are really kind of taking and embracing as a mainstream, totally safe, everybody, let’s just do it. Let’s do it every day. Let’s see how long we can do it for. You know, I saw somebody doing it for like four and a half minutes the other day. And it’s just, I think that there’s some things that really need to be communicated, you know, on a, bigger scale before everybody just starts to jump on this, like I’m going to cold plunge. For me, it’s an intuitive, it’s an intuitive no. I absolutely know that my body is not in a place of that, my nervous system is not in a place of really being able to handle that. For someone who’s super strong, has a really balanced nervous system, has great cortisol levels is really not working with, you know, any major dressers on the body. Sure.

I mean, I think an occasional cold punch is probably not a bad thing. I mean, I think they could get those benefits from it, but I think for many people, it actually could be more detrimental than helpful. I mean, I’d love to hear your thoughts, but I actually feel like, cause a lot of the benefits of cold plunging can be achieved in other things, like even red light therapy, like getting on a red light bed is so great for inflammation. And I know reducing inflammation is one of the things that people really like cold punching for. It’s like, jump on a red light bed and that’s going to be way more soothing to your nervous system. And it’s going to help with a lot of those same benefits, but without the risk of really further damaging your nervous system and your adrenals.

Lindsay:
Yeah. I love everything you’re saying. It’s been on my mind because it’s one of those things where you said it was an intuitive no, and you just, I think there’s a lot of things that we get told are beneficial. And 90 percent of people aren’t doing the basics, like focusing on their breath, and just coming into, like, how they’re starting their day. Are you being exposed to blue light? And the, you know, just really simple things where it’s like, I think maybe the human condition. I know it is for me where it’s like, oh, I’ll just try something extreme and fun and different. And then is that even the best, you know? And for me, I didn’t do cold plunging regularly. It’s funny. Last year, I think I felt more kind of stirred up about it. And I was in a good routine of doing facial cold plunging, which I thought about getting back into because it can be so good for toning the vagus nerve. And it’s really great for the skin. Yeah.

Interestingly, this year, I just, I knew that I was more depleted. I just knew that my system was a little bit more. Like you said, it’s just kind of being aware of your adrenals, your cortisol, your nervous system. I’m, I’m doing quite a bit of detox. And I had actually, it’s a tradition of me and my husband’s to go cold plunging on New Year’s day. We used our tub that we had here. I think the water was only 32 degrees or something. And we weren’t even in there that long, but I had done it for like two days, just as like, it’s again, just a habit, tradition, whatever. And it was interesting because my cycle came like three days late after that. Uh, that was, I did it in my luteal phase and I don’t know if that was the total thing, but it was very interesting because I could tell very quickly after doing it. No, I’m Yeah. I love everything you’re saying. It’s been on my mind because it’s one of those things where you said it was an intuitive no, and you just, I think there’s a lot of things that we get told are beneficial. And 90 percent of people aren’t doing the basics, like focusing on their breath, and just coming into, like, how they’re starting their day. Are you being exposed to blue light? And the, you know, just really simple things where it’s like, I think maybe the human condition. I know it is for me where it’s like, oh, I’ll just try something extreme and fun and different. And then is that even the best, you know? And for me, I didn’t do cold plunging regularly. It’s funny. Last year, I think I felt more kind of stirred up about it. And I was in a good routine of doing facial cold plunging, which I thought about getting back into because it can be so good for toning the vagus nerve. And it’s really great for the skin. Yeah.

Interestingly, this year, I just, I knew that I was more depleted. I just knew that my system was a little bit more. Like you said, it’s just kind of being aware of your adrenals, your cortisol, your nervous system. I’m, I’m doing quite a bit of detox. And I had actually, it’s a tradition of me and my husband’s to go cold plunging on New Year’s day. We used our tub that we had here. I think the water was only 32 degrees or something. And we weren’t even in there that long, but I had done it for like two days, just as like, it’s again, just a habit, tradition, whatever. And it was interesting because my cycle came like three days late after that. Uh, that was, I did it in my luteal phase and I don’t know if that was the total thing, but it was very interesting because I could tell very quickly after doing it. No, I’m

Hillary:

Right, right. Yes. Um, and, and like you said to like the face cold plunging, I was actually going to bring that up too. I mean, that’s something that I think is highly beneficial and is not likely to really jolt your system enough to have, you know, have any detrimental effects on your nervous system. But I mean, there’s so many ways that you can. You know, take elements of something and make them work for you and your situation.

I just, I think like, it’s really important to ask yourself, you know, why am I doing this? What am I looking to gain from this? You know, what, like, what are the real benefits that I specifically am looking to gain from this? And then what are the potential risks here? Or does my body even feel like this is you know, the right way to go. Because truly you can find benefits in so many different things. You can eat certain things. You can do certain, I mean, there’s so many ways to get to that end result right?

So yeah. And I will say too, I mean, if you’re feeling a little under the weather, like I’m still getting over a little cold right now. I don’t know if you can hear it, but if you’re feeling a little under the weather, if you’re feeling not quite like on top of your game, if you’ve just been extra stressed, I would absolutely avoid. Avoid, avoid. Because it really, it really can be just too much, you know, too much on the system and I’m not saying I won’t do it ever. I mean, if I get to a place where I, like you said, you were feeling like really good and really, I mean, I do feel good, but I’m saying like, if I felt like my nervous system and my adrenals were like super wanting that and ready for that. Yeah, I would try it. But it’s again, it’s just that kind of math, you know, everybody run for the cold plunging bath.

Lindsay:

Yeah, it is interesting. I’m so glad you brought that one up because I do think, yeah, it all comes down to really getting to know your body better and that communication and honoring that. So.

That wraps up part one of things we’re vibing with right now. I’m so glad that you got to listen to that and I hope that it made you laugh a bit and also just gave you some inspiration. I love to be able to make healing fun and also just have those real and raw conversations, just like we’re sitting across from each other having a coffee and just we’re just vibing. So make sure you are staying tuned for next week. There is going to be a part two. You don’t want to miss it. I’m sharing my points of things that are vibing with me when it comes to health right now, things that I would love to get rid of.

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